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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 57129@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57129: 29.0.50; Improve behavior of conditionals in Eshell
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 08:07:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83pmh3l8ey.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c04a92b-85f4-41c3-917b-4716cca2b9d6@gmail.com> (message from Jim Porter on Sat, 13 Aug 2022 11:56:20 -0700)

> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 57129@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2022 11:56:20 -0700
> 
> On 8/13/2022 12:01 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > One of the tests in esh-var-tests.el failed on MS-Windows; I fixed it,
> > although I'm not sure it's a correct fix, because the Eshell manual
> > seems to say that a built-in implementation of a command should be
> > preferred by default?
> 
> Sorry about that. I think that's the right fix for that case. Maybe it 
> would make sense to set 'eshell-prefer-lisp-functions' to t for most of 
> the Eshell tests to improve reproducibility on various platforms; tests 
> that want an external command can just put a "*" in front of the command 
> name.

But then this fragment from the Eshell manual:

     The command can be either an Elisp function or an external command.
  Eshell looks first for an alias (*note Aliases::) with the same name as
  the command, then a built-in (*note Built-ins::) or a function with the
  same name; if there is no match, it then tries to execute it as an
  external command.

seems to be inaccurate?  Since 'format' exists as a built-in command,
why did Eshell in this case invoke the external command instead?

> I'm surprised that test fails on MS Windows, since it *should* be 
> testing internal Eshell logic that's not platform-specific. Based on the 
> failure, it looks like one of the following commands is returning the 
> wrong value:
> 
>    echo {echo $eshell-in-pipeline-p | echo} | *cat
>    echo ${echo $eshell-in-pipeline-p | echo} | *cat
>    *cat $<echo $eshell-in-pipeline-p | echo> | *cat
> 
> All of these should return 'first'.

The first two do; the last one returns nothing.

> That test is just checking that, 
> when you're in a subcommand ({...}, ${...}, or $<...>), the value of 
> 'eshell-in-pipeline-p' shouldn't be influenced by the pipeline in the 
> "super-command". Some built-in Eshell commands consult 
> 'eshell-in-pipeline-p', and if it had the wrong value, they might do the 
> wrong thing.

So how to investigate this failure further?

> If nothing else, it would probably be helpful to set up ERT explainers 
> so that the error messages are easier to understand. As it is now, 
> they're not very explanatory.

Indeed, more explanations in this and other tests will be most
welcome.

Thanks.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-14  5:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-11  2:43 bug#57129: 29.0.50; Improve behavior of conditionals in Eshell Jim Porter
2022-08-11  2:46 ` Jim Porter
2022-08-12 15:22   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-13  5:14     ` Jim Porter
2022-08-13  7:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-13 18:56         ` Jim Porter
2022-08-14  5:07           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-08-14  5:37             ` Jim Porter
2022-08-14  7:30               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-14 21:40                 ` Jim Porter
2022-08-15 12:13                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-15 16:14                     ` Jim Porter
2022-08-15 16:49                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-15 18:08                         ` Jim Porter
2022-08-15 18:21                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-15 18:30                             ` Jim Porter
2022-08-15 18:58                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-15 20:55                                 ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                                 ` <af0af29b-2362-77db-081e-046158937808@cs.ucla.edu>
2022-08-15 21:22                                   ` Bruno Haible
2022-08-16 11:04                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                   ` <835yish2l1.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-08-16 13:35                                     ` Bruno Haible
     [not found]                                     ` <1871347.6tgchFWduM@nimes>
2022-08-16 13:51                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                       ` <838rnofgad.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-08-16 14:40                                         ` Bruno Haible
2022-08-16 16:25                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                           ` <83wnb8dukz.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-08-16 16:54                                             ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                                             ` <206e38df-2db4-a46a-e0ff-952bc8ab939c@cs.ucla.edu>
2022-08-16 17:04                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                               ` <83sflwdsr2.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-08-16 17:30                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2022-08-16 17:41                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                 ` <ceeeaa86-6199-93b1-ff65-bbd3e531e235@cs.ucla.edu>
2022-08-16 17:56                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-16 17:25                                             ` Paul Eggert
2022-08-16 17:29                                             ` Bruno Haible
     [not found]                                             ` <f329244a-cba7-65cd-2e5d-2630eba3e9e9@cs.ucla.edu>
2022-08-16 17:47                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-16 19:11                                                 ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                                                 ` <d95734ab-6bbc-7403-c1f8-fbf742badda4@cs.ucla.edu>
2022-08-16 20:12                                                   ` Bruno Haible
2022-08-17 11:08                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                   ` <83h72bdt4z.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-08-18  6:05                                                     ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                                                     ` <57b8f10f-8e9b-5951-e5ad-8cba2a8cb569@cs.ucla.edu>
2022-08-18  6:44                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                             ` <2594092.Isy0gbHreE@nimes>
2022-08-16 17:52                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-16 20:06                                                 ` Bruno Haible
     [not found]                                                 ` <2606289.q0ZmV6gNhb@nimes>
2022-08-17 11:29                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-16 19:59                                         ` Bruno Haible
     [not found]                                         ` <2135151.C4sosBPzcN@nimes>
2022-08-16 20:53                                           ` Paul Eggert
2022-08-21 16:20                                             ` Bruno Haible
2022-08-21 16:32                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-21 17:17                                               ` Bruno Haible
2022-08-22 20:47                                                 ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                                                 ` <2dc7ede0-eca7-baf5-f89a-f5d292b80808@cs.ucla.edu>
2022-08-23  0:13                                                   ` Bruno Haible
     [not found]                                                   ` <3893771.2iPT33SAM4@nimes>
2022-08-23 11:18                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                     ` <831qt79pjj.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-08-23 14:49                                                       ` Bruno Haible
2022-08-23 16:07                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-20 18:03                                 ` Jim Porter
2022-08-20 18:14                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-20 18:49                                     ` Jim Porter
2022-08-24 21:41                                   ` Jim Porter
2022-08-26  5:10                                     ` Jim Porter
2023-03-16  5:35                                       ` Jim Porter
2022-08-14  5:03       ` Sean Whitton

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