From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59347: 29.0.50; `:family` face setting ignored Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2022 18:54:02 +0200 Message-ID: <83pmdk9pat.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bkp4bfqf.fsf@gnu.org> <83wn7s9txp.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4037"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 59347@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 18 17:55:19 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ow4e6-0000pX-Ev for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2022 17:55:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ow4dr-0007FI-Nh; Fri, 18 Nov 2022 11:55:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ow4dq-0007F1-Rx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2022 11:55:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ow4dq-0003ck-JA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2022 11:55:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ow4dq-0001KF-CO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2022 11:55:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2022 16:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59347 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59347-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59347.16687904465022 (code B ref 59347); Fri, 18 Nov 2022 16:55:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59347) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2022 16:54:06 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38110 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ow4cv-0001Iw-Th for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2022 11:54:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49492) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ow4cu-0001IM-O0 for 59347@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2022 11:54:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ow4cp-0003UD-3n; Fri, 18 Nov 2022 11:53:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=UNYA8rikwbb5xu5my8N3PFVMlwHx5O1oiF+tlPuVzkk=; b=BPU4qL7LWfGG 5OH13HOGgVBmPYUptVPyzCXQgDjCkvuc5YRSp1PYef2yziMCuin6Hri+m8sx/wNkmbUDAqX6P0nIQ pwzQHxdBZh0cUYm2sGejLTPCXKe4Aa+PWRJ9ZKxueKboxEJJp1cOcwD4WWyKo1MaduKn1MdCoG4BB 302QQmCBbuObHnkW9oLZq1cmiFZJPvQL4NwbBZ0jl0REkCro6s0nyiJv2l65ZFZdH+e+IIRzsDN5F 94e+h8HdY7aN5+IjPt2SqpiOThXB0s53fJiw17H8qzsiQ1AguXaG1zlyY2obM9lc5+4i6yxnRMGo1 lTplwZYHdOPQBUXHUUBDvw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ow4cn-0005Vv-QT; Fri, 18 Nov 2022 11:53:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 18 Nov 2022 10:25:34 -0500) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:248262 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: 59347@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2022 10:25:34 -0500 > > >> So let me return the question: what part of the above code makes you > >> think it's correct for Emacs to use a different font than the DejaVu Sans? > > The part where you requested a misc-fixed font. > > I can't see how a "misc-fixed" default fault would prevent the use of > DejaVu Sans font for particular parts of the text. This has worked for > the last 10 years or so, AFAIK. So this recipe is something that stopped working recently? Can you tell when, or bisect? > > Bottom line: you cannot expect Emacs to select a font from a family > > you request, not with a 100% reliability anyway. Emacs can decide > > not to. > > I sense a bit of defensiveness in your responses. I'm just tired of investigating recipes that eventually lead nowhere. The way Emacs approves and rejects fonts doesn't guarantee that a request to use a given family will always be granted. Moreover, fontconfig setup on the user's platform is also relevant. > I'm really trying to fix an actual misbehavior in my config (one > which at first sight looks to me like a plain bug, or at least a > plain regression). It isn't. > What should I change in my recipe in order to keep the same default font > but get the DejaVu Sans that used to get? The default font would be my guess. Try using some other font, not from the fixed-misc family.