From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: u.s.reddy@cs.bham.ac.uk, user.emacs@gmail.com,
cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, 7517@debbugs.gnu.org,
jan.h.d@swipnet.se
Subject: Re: bug#7517: 24.0.50; repeated crash under Mac OS X
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 13:57:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83oc80q1k4.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvoc81fssl.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: emacs user <user.emacs@gmail.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 7517@debbugs.gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Uday S. Reddy" <u.s.reddy@cs.bham.ac.uk>
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:07:22 -0500
>
> I'd tend to agree. ENCODE_UTF_8 is used for things where we *really*
> want the output to be proper utf-8, so any char outside of utf-8
> (e.g. an eight-bit char) should result in something else than a raw byte
> in the output.
The only thing it can do is output the replacement character U+FFFD,
or `?', or characters in the range U+DC80..U+DCFF. I tend to think
that `?' is the best alternative.
> This is contrary to what we do for utf-8 files
So we should have a different encoding symbol for these two variants.
I still maintain that VM should do better in this case. I don't think
we have a clear idea of what happened in this particular crash, so
perhaps is too soon to forget about VM's part.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-01 11:57 UTC|newest]
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2010-11-29 14:22 bug#7517: 24.0.50; repeated crash under Mac OS X emacs user
2010-12-17 11:47 ` Chong Yidong
2010-12-17 23:07 ` emacs user
2010-12-17 23:42 ` emacs user
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2010-12-26 18:43 ` emacs user
2010-12-29 4:29 ` Chong Yidong
2010-12-29 4:29 ` Chong Yidong
2010-12-29 11:59 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-29 11:59 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-29 12:21 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-29 15:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-29 16:06 ` emacs user
2010-12-30 11:35 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-30 14:20 ` emacs user
2010-12-30 22:02 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-30 22:02 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-31 6:11 ` emacs user
2010-12-31 6:12 ` emacs user
2010-12-31 8:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-31 8:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-31 11:16 ` emacs user
2010-12-31 10:49 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-31 10:49 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-31 11:23 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-31 11:23 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-31 11:26 ` emacs user
2010-12-31 12:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-31 12:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-31 13:06 ` emacs user
2010-12-31 13:18 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-31 13:18 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-31 13:10 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-31 13:10 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-31 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-31 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-31 14:22 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-31 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-31 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-31 16:09 ` emacs user
2010-12-31 16:09 ` emacs user
2010-12-31 18:57 ` Jan Djärv
2011-01-01 3:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-01-01 3:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-12-31 18:57 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-31 14:22 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-31 16:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-31 16:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-31 17:42 ` emacs user
2010-12-31 22:30 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-31 22:30 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-31 23:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-01 11:57 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-01-01 12:46 ` emacs user
2011-01-01 12:46 ` emacs user
2011-01-01 15:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-01 15:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-01 17:02 ` Uday S Reddy
2011-01-01 18:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-01 18:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-01 17:02 ` Uday S Reddy
2011-01-01 18:34 ` Jan D.
2011-01-02 14:02 ` Chong Yidong
2011-01-02 14:02 ` Chong Yidong
2011-01-03 21:34 ` Jan Djärv
2011-01-03 21:34 ` Jan Djärv
2011-01-01 17:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-01 17:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-01 18:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-01 18:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-01 11:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-31 23:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-01 12:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-01 12:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-01 17:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-01 18:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-01 18:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-01 22:43 ` Uday S Reddy
2011-01-02 4:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-02 20:43 ` Uday S Reddy
2011-01-02 22:06 ` Jan Djärv
2011-01-03 4:59 ` Uday S Reddy
2011-01-03 8:10 ` emacs user
2011-01-02 22:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-03 4:50 ` Uday S Reddy
2011-01-03 13:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-03 21:07 ` Jan Djärv
2011-01-03 0:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-01 17:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-31 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-31 13:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-31 13:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-31 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-30 11:35 ` Jan Djärv
2010-12-29 15:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-29 12:21 ` Jan Djärv
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