From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6018: 23.1.96; doc of version(-list)* Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:58:13 +0300 Message-ID: <83oc0wetwq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <831ve53nv5.fsf@gnu.org> <73AC74BD8215444E997358F72C146FC8@us.oracle.com> <87r55tpqh4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <6939AE9645124A98A704884D2C66A2B1@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310659143 15481 80.91.229.12 (14 Jul 2011 15:59:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, 6018@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 14 17:58:59 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhOJX-0002wP-0q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:58:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41890 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhOJV-0005ve-CH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:58:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58007) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhOHk-0005YA-Jh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:57:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhOHf-0003i4-B4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:57:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:53185) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhOHe-0003hz-MF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhOHe-0003XO-1p; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:57:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6018 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 6018-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6018.131065898113548 (code B ref 6018); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:57:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6018) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2011 15:56:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhOGx-0003WT-LF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:56:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhOGs-0003WC-Ux for 6018@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:56:17 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LOB00300YTYFB00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 6018@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:56:07 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.156.102]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LOB003PRYXIFL00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:56:07 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <6939AE9645124A98A704884D2C66A2B1@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:57:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:49026 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: , , <6018@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:05:57 -0700 > > > And version-regexp-alist is itself an internal variable, so this is > > not an evidence to the effect you want it to be. The doc string of > > version-regexp-alist is for developers of this group of functions, not > > for users of their advertised APIs. > > Really? What about these parts of the doc string of `version-to-list': Irrelevant, see below. > Or are you now claiming that `version-to-list' is also internal, like you > claimed for `version-list*'? Of course! > > > > nothing is said about the comparison of strings with digits > > > > other than zero. And that's arguably the most important and > > > > most up for grabs. > > > > You mean, it isn't obviously clear that 3 is greater than 2 and less > > than 4? It needs to be documented in a doc string? > > A digit is not a string of digits. And as you know full well (or should know), > there are various ways to order strings of digits. But the default (and TRT) order is well known, especially in the context of version numbers. They are called "numbers" for a reason. > How are strings containing digits compared? As one expects. We don't document where Sun rises this morning, either. > What about case sensitivity? Ditto. > Does `case-fold-search' affect that or not? Ditto.