From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GnuTLS for W32 Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:19:15 +0200 Message-ID: <83obujpbz0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87boqmlrma.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ty4e9j19.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83obumqa0v.fsf@gnu.org> <87ipktag2e.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwfxtxuz.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87aa64ubg9.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83boqkr9bp.fsf@gnu.org> <874nwcu17i.fsf@wanadoo.es> <834nwcr6un.fsf@gnu.org> <87vcosskhc.fsf@wanadoo.es> <831urgr2yr.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4zgsh2w.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ipks3zbo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87boqk3q69.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87aa634st8.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325701227 4049 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2012 18:20:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 04 19:20:23 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVRi-0002Y0-Ka for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:20:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54928 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVRi-0007xd-2P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:20:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41170) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVRc-0007xY-Er for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:20:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVRX-0000Ws-88 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:20:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:48168) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVRW-0000VM-SI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:20:07 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LXA00200DJLZ200@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:20:04 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.18.76]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LXA002HADLFOSA0@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:20:04 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147282 Archived-At: > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:33:11 +0100 > > "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > > > I think that the thing to do is for Emacs to install private versions > > of DLLs when it installs any at all, and if/when people complain about > > "bloat", add some logic (maybe in the installer routine) to check to > > see if there is an appropriate DLL already on the Windows DLL path. > > I agree. Assuming that the size of these things is comparable on > Windows and Debian, the added size doesn't seem particularly daunting: > > [larsi@stories ~]$ ls -lh /usr/lib/libgnutls.so.26.14.12 src/emacs/trunk/src/emacs /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2.7.8 > -rwxr-xr-x 3 larsi larsi 19M Jan 3 20:41 src/emacs/trunk/src/emacs > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 654K Mar 20 2010 /usr/lib/libgnutls.so.26.14.12 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.4M Jun 4 2011 /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2.7.8 You missed few dependencies, but yes, the sizes are comparable: -rw-rw-rw- 1 Zaretzkii None 73K 2012-01-02 19:44 libp11-kit-0.dll -rw-rw-rw- 1 Zaretzkii None 148K 2012-01-02 19:44 libnettle-4-3.dll -rw-rw-rw- 1 Zaretzkii None 306K 2012-01-02 19:44 libhogweed-2-1.dll -rw-rw-rw- 1 Zaretzkii None 937K 2012-01-02 19:44 libgnutls-28.dll -rw-rw-rw- 1 Zaretzkii None 417K 2012-01-02 19:44 libgmp-10.dll -rw-rw-rw- 1 Zaretzkii None 966K 2011-06-19 21:52 libxml2.dll