From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r109306: Use an include file in configure.ac's AH_BOTTOM Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:17:53 +0300 Message-ID: <83obmveo4e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83vch3eu29.fsf@gnu.org> <83sjc7et2f.fsf@gnu.org> <83r4rresf4.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343762293 19192 80.91.229.3 (31 Jul 2012 19:18:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 31 21:18:13 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SwHxM-00055M-F3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:18:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47995 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwHxL-0004wL-Il for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:18:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40268) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwHxJ-0004vQ-GD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:18:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwHxI-00071l-1y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:18:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:44879) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwHxH-00071D-QG; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:18:07 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M8100700HIML400@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:18:05 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M810078KHLZ2E90@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:18:00 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152031 Archived-At: > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:01:10 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Btw, if the idea of conf_post.h is to be the only place of > > system-dependent configury that isn't autoconfiscated > > That wasn't particularly the intention, it was just necessary to work > around an autoconf issue; > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/autoconf/2006-10/msg00020.html OK, but then what's The Plan wrt this stuff? Are we waiting for Autoconf to be fixed? Is this stuff going to be left in a separate header for the observable future? Something else? I mean, it's hard to follow suit on non-Posix platforms, when the maintainer's intent on Posix was not revealed (apologies if it was and I missed that). > > , and if we want to remove src/s/ altogether, would it be okay to move > > stuff from msdos.h and ms-w32.h into conf_post.h? > > I'm obviously hoping Someone (TM) will remove s/msdos.h and s/ms-w32.h, > either by moving them to the nt/ or msdos/ directory (or if all else > fails, to src/), or by folding them in to config.nt or some other > place... There's any number of possible ways to do this. Which one is the best, I cannot decide without knowing your goal with this stuff, which is clearly platform-dependent. The removal of things from src/s/*.h is going on for some time, but the last thing I expected to see at its end is a bunch platform-specific macros on a platform-independent header. It's confusing. > AMPERSAND_FULL_NAME and subprocesses obviously belong in configure.ac; I > moved them. What about SYSTEM_PURESIZE_EXTRA? conf_post.h defines that for NS and Darwin; should I move the msdos.h definitions there as well? If not, why not? Or what about NULL_DEVICE or SEPCHAR? should they be autoconfiscated (in which case they can be removed from s/msdos.h)? There are more questions like this, and they get in the way of making the decision what to do with src/s/ms*.h. TIA