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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs and Java
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 11:15:52 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83obl7u2fb.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877grvpwyk.wl%f@mazzo.li>

> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 08:27:31 +0100
> From: Francesco Mazzoli <f@mazzo.li>
> 
> At Sat, 15 Sep 2012 08:53:47 +0800,
> Leo wrote:
> > Writing java in emacs is only better than writing it in notepad.  Probably why
> > some veteran emacs hackers leave emacs for IDEs if they have to hack java day
> > in and day out! You can customise the hell out of emacs and it will never even
> > come close to any good java IDE. Emacs simply doesn't understand java or
> > understand it in a retarded way (i.e.  it can do some code completion with a
> > speed nobody can tolerate).
> 
> There is no reason whatsoever why this has to be the case, emacs has excellent
> support (either out of the box or via third party packages) for most languages.
> The problem is that most people just give up and use big IDEs, which I truly
> loathe - I'd rather code in the current emacs setup than in an IDE.

Way to go!

Please submit any changes you feel are necessary to
emacs-devel@gnu.org, or, better yet, file a bug with the patches using
"M-x report-emacs-bug RET".

People who want to improve Emacs support for IDE-like development
environment with modern features are encouraged to make improvements
and submit them, and generally work on improving them, rather than
whine about Emacs being "slightly better than Notepad".  That kind of
attitude will never get you any closer to your goal.

You can sit on the fence laughing at Emacs and waiting for others to
do the job, or you can jump in, bite the bullet, and do something to
advance Emacs into the future.  Your call.



  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-15  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-14 11:25 Emacs and Java Francesco Mazzoli
2012-09-14 13:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-14 14:14   ` Francesco Mazzoli
2012-09-14 14:32     ` Francesco Mazzoli
2012-09-14 15:01       ` Francesco Mazzoli
2012-09-14 13:35 ` Ludwig, Mark
     [not found] ` <CAHW=5p_PBvqzLFa0dFGgTvKS94oU2mn9332G7Ce1VLZwRQjDiQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-09-14 16:29   ` Grégoire Neuville
2012-09-15  7:25     ` Francesco Mazzoli
2012-09-16  6:53       ` Tom
2012-09-15  0:53 ` Leo
2012-09-15  7:27   ` Francesco Mazzoli
2012-09-15  8:15     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2012-09-15 11:17       ` Jambunathan K
2012-09-15 11:48         ` Jambunathan K
2012-09-15 20:57         ` Francesco Mazzoli
2012-09-15  7:22 ` JDEE help (was: Emacs and Java) Francesco Mazzoli
2012-09-15  8:17   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-15  9:28   ` Forward: " Francesco Mazzoli
2012-09-15 18:39   ` JDEE help Philipp Haselwarter

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