From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: x-display-pixel-width/height inconsistency
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:19:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83obe83h4a.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wlk3oxifd8.wl%mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:36:03 +0900
> From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> >>>>> On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 05:53:10 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> said:
>
> >> Could you check GetSystemMetrics safely returns 0 for unknown
> >> arguments (because I can't test it)?
>
> > What else can it do? Failing for invalid parameters is what Windows
> > APIs always do.
>
> I'm not a W32 expert. So I thought the possibility of aborting (as a
> fatal program bug) or writing warning messages to some syslog
> counterparts for invalid parameters.
The "normal" (i.e., non-buggy) behavior of the Windows APIs is to
return an error indication and set the error code (returned by
GetLastError) to ERROR_INVALID_PARAMETER. I don't have access to NT 4
or Windows 95, but I verified that on XP passing 200 as the parameter
indeed yields this behavior for GetSystemMetrics.
> > That's a different issue. My point was that your patch should
> > include changes to doc strings that describe what these functions
> > will do after the changes are installed.
>
> > As for different names, it depends on what we decide to be the
> > "normative" behavior.
>
> OK. My proposal is to determine that the term "display" in Emacs
> refers to the notion of that in X11 (the whole screen spanning
> possibly multiple all the physical monitors) so that we can define
> "normative" behaviors the functions (x-)display-*. Very simple and no
> change required for X11.
Please include the necessary documentation changes to codify this
behavior, and then I have no objections to such a change.
> Documentations could be updated accordingly once we determine the
> "normative" behavior as above.
I think documentation changes should be part of the proposed changes
in this case.
> >> Users would want to know several kinds of information about each
> >> monitor, such as the geometry (including the origin) or the
> >> workarea, not just about size in pixels.
> > The problem of geometry and the origin exists for a single virtual
> > display as well.
>
> ??? Could you expand?
See this page, for example:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd145136%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
As you see, the origin is on the top-left corner of the _primary_
monitor, and if some other monitor is configured to display the
portion of the virtual screen to the left of the primary, the X
coordinates there will be negative. What happens on X11 and NS in
this case?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-24 16:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-21 0:58 x-display-pixel-width/height inconsistency grischka
2013-03-21 1:05 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-21 1:09 ` grischka
2013-03-21 1:44 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-21 23:29 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-22 10:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-23 0:32 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-23 6:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-23 13:35 ` Jan Djärv
2013-03-23 23:58 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-24 3:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-24 4:36 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-24 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2013-04-27 5:13 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-27 8:04 ` Jan Djärv
2013-04-28 1:40 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-28 17:16 ` Jan D.
2013-04-29 2:27 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-29 2:42 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-01 9:58 ` Jan Djärv
2013-05-02 4:09 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-06 1:04 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-06 1:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-06 6:15 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-06 13:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-08 10:46 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-08 11:24 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-08 17:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-09 0:09 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-09 1:52 ` Glenn Morris
2013-05-09 3:19 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-09 6:27 ` Glenn Morris
2013-05-09 2:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-09 8:14 ` Jan Djärv
2013-05-09 8:43 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-09 15:18 ` Jan Djärv
2013-05-09 20:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-09 21:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-10 6:00 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-10 6:05 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-10 7:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-10 7:47 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-10 8:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-10 8:55 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-10 9:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-10 9:27 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-14 10:39 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-07-01 6:49 ` martin rudalics
2013-07-02 1:30 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-07-02 10:38 ` martin rudalics
2013-07-02 10:53 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-02 13:11 ` martin rudalics
2013-07-02 14:05 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-03 9:27 ` martin rudalics
2013-07-03 10:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-03 12:44 ` martin rudalics
2013-07-03 13:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-04 9:34 ` martin rudalics
[not found] ` <5987E3>
2013-07-04 22:32 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 7:44 ` martin rudalics
2013-07-05 9:32 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 9:34 ` Jan Djärv
2013-07-05 9:41 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 11:25 ` Jan Djärv
2013-07-05 11:56 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 12:12 ` Jan Djärv
2013-07-05 12:16 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 15:30 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-05 15:53 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 16:58 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-06 14:48 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-06 19:25 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-05 15:27 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-04 10:28 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-10 7:44 ` Jan Djärv
2013-04-28 1:48 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-03-19 0:39 YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-19 1:34 ` Leo Liu
2013-03-19 4:54 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-03-19 15:41 ` Drew Adams
2013-03-19 15:51 ` Leo Liu
2013-03-19 15:58 ` Drew Adams
2013-03-20 0:55 ` Leo Liu
2013-03-19 22:25 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-19 23:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-19 23:52 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-20 0:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-20 0:20 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-20 1:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-20 3:58 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-20 14:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-20 23:28 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-21 1:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-21 1:51 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-21 2:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-21 3:47 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-21 4:22 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
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