From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: some progress Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:35:31 +0300 Message-ID: <83obazmszw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87vc57hfyc.fsf@gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es> <87ip17h9uy.fsf@gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es> <83sj0bmv26.fsf@gnu.org> <8738sbh87c.fsf@gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1371826251 31179 80.91.229.3 (21 Jun 2013 14:50:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uwe Brauer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 21 16:50:51 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uq2fq-0006kZ-Di for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:50:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60552 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uq2fp-0003gf-TS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:50:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57631) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uq2fl-0003fQ-9X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:50:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uq2fk-00017v-06 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:50:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:63876) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uq2Qt-0004MJ-AA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:35:23 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MOQ00300Z66V700@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:35:19 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MOQ003MHZ6VV400@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:35:19 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <8738sbh87c.fsf@gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:160831 Archived-At: > From: Uwe Brauer > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:03:35 +0200 > > > Does it help to type "C-x C-+"? > Only a little bit, the ascii chars are getting really bigger the hebrew > ones only a slightly bit. Do I need additional fonts (I am on (K)ubuntu 10.04)??? You need more/better fonts. > However the input methods which are offered do no include hebrew > phonetic, by which I mean > > > "aleph" is on "a" etc. Try hebrew-biblical-sil, it comes close. And "C-h C-\" will display a keyboard schematics that will tell you which key inserts which character. > That is why I use the input via KDE and that is why I need to turn on > R2L manually. ??? I don't understand: as long as Emacs gets the correct characters, no matter how they were created, everything else, including paragraph direction, should "just work". > So maybe the best solution would be to provide also hebrew-phonetical[1] > Because I am a little worried how KDE keyboard and nested text may work > together. > > I can give it a try to have also a hebrew-phonetical. Which are the > files to be modified? leim/quail/hebrew.el. > [1] (BTW what is hebrew-lyx suppose to be? KDE also offers it and I cannot > see any difference to standard hebrew, ok I don't have a hebrew keyboard > here, so maybe . / etc are different. I expect hebrew-lyx in Emacs to be the same as what KDE offers. But I never checked.