From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Witness computation - minor breakage in the build system Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:57:49 +0200 Message-ID: <83ob3h8a6a.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20140112043735.C0A2E380523@snark.thyrsus.com> <52D21EFA.1010905@cs.ucla.edu> <20140112050859.GA1742@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389542292 13425 80.91.229.3 (12 Jan 2014 15:58:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 15:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 12 16:58:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W2NQY-0000Ke-ED for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 16:58:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38387 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2NQY-0003R1-3v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:58:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37905) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2NQR-0003Qu-5D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:58:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2NQL-0004P9-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:58:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:56061) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2NQL-0004P3-FR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:58:05 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MZA00100PKHUX00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:58:04 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MZA001POPOR5MB0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:58:04 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20140112050859.GA1742@thyrsus.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168193 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 00:08:59 -0500 > From: "Eric S. Raymond" > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > ## VCSWITNESS points to the file that holds info about the current checkout. > ## We use it as a heuristic to decide when to rebuild loaddefs.el. > ## If empty it is ignored; the parent makefile can set it to some other value. > > It would make my life simpler if this mechanism were removed; that's one of only > two dependencies of Cazaar in the entire build (the other one is in > lisp/version.el). And the fact that the bug went undetected suggests that > the mechanism wasn't very useful. > > Anyone want to argue for keeping this? Support removing it? Suggest > something else? We need something to refresh loaddefs.el from time to time. If you have alternative suggestions, please describe them.