From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: dancol@dancol.org, fabrice.popineau@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GC and stack marking
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 05:51:45 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83oayroncu.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvppj8ds9e.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>, fabrice.popineau@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 18:03:51 -0400
>
> > It's not a bug in GC. The memory management scheme that Fabrice wrote
> > does not dump the heap (because doing that is problematic on Windows,
> > and requires addition of a separate section to the executable, which
> > then precludes its stripping, and has also other complexities).
> > Instead, temacs uses a private fixed-address heap that is located in a
> > static array, and whose memory is allocated by a replacement malloc
> > function. So any address that points to memory allocated not in that
> > array, but in the real heap provided by malloc from libc, cannot be
> > safely dumped, because in the dumped Emacs it will point to some
> > random location.
>
> OK, so why is the hash table allocated elsewhere then the other objects
> (I understand why one might want to do that, but the question is about
> what is different in the code in the case of this purify-flag hash-table
> compared to other vectors/hashtables allocated during the dump).
Because fixed-address heaps on Windows are limited to allocations
whose size is at most 0x7f000, and one of the vectors allocated for a
70K hash-table is larger than that.
> Is it just based on size? I.e. would the same problem show up if some
> large vector were to be allocated (and not freed) before dumping?
Yes. And not just large vectors, any large object (e.g., string).
And that's what scared me, because I can always find a solution for
the case I know of, but how to make this reliable in the face of
future changes in Emacs?
Anyway, it looks like Fabrice found a way to work around the above
limitation, so I guess this issue is no longer such a big problem.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-21 2:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-19 16:31 GC and stack marking Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-19 18:47 ` Paul Eggert
2014-05-19 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-19 19:58 ` Paul Eggert
2014-05-19 20:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-19 20:17 ` Paul Eggert
2014-05-20 16:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-20 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-20 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-20 17:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-20 19:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-20 22:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-21 2:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-21 3:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-21 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-21 15:57 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-05-21 16:06 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-05-21 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-21 16:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-21 17:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-21 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-22 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-22 16:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-24 12:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-20 19:12 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-05-20 19:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-20 22:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-21 2:51 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-05-31 6:31 ` Florian Weimer
2014-05-31 14:24 ` Stefan Monnier
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-05-21 19:31 Barry OReilly
2014-05-21 20:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-21 20:49 ` Barry OReilly
2014-05-22 2:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-22 3:12 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-05-22 5:37 ` David Kastrup
2014-05-22 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-22 15:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-22 14:59 ` Barry OReilly
2014-05-22 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
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