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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Dumper issue, revisited; invalid realloc/free
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 21:21:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83oap9fppc.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150204175709.GX23507@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 12:57:09 -0500
> From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
> 
> Last summer I started a thread about the ever-recurring dumper
> portability problem and how it was blocking use of emacs on systems
> based on musl libc. Recently I've been working with several people
> interested in getting emacs working on Alpine Linux and musl-based
> Gentoo, and I made some progress working around the issue:
> 
> http://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2015/02/03/1

I suggest that you take a look at src/w32heap.c on Emacs's master
branch.  There' you will see a simple solution of a very similar (if
not identical) problem we have on MS-Windows.  It even includes a
simple handling of large allocations.

The only disadvantage of this scheme is that it wastes space in the
final binary, because the space reserved for the build-time
allocations needs to be large enough to support the building of
bootstrap-emacs, which is built before the Lisp files are compiled,
and thus needs roughly twice the space -- which is then wasted in the
next binary the build produces.  It would be nice to solve this at
some point, but it's not a catastrophe.

> However, on further examination, the workaround I did is insufficient.
> >From what I can tell, emacs is making an additional assumption on
> malloc: not only that malloc results will be contiguous with
> data/bss/brk so they can be dumped, but also that calling free() or
> realloc() on these objects in the new process after dumping is valid.

Either that, or realloc/free are never called on the objects allocated
before dumping.  On some platforms, the second assumption actually
holds.

> IMO this is utter nonsense, even with glibc or other widely-used
> systems. It imposes an assumption that the heap structures in the
> malloc version used at dump time match the heap structures in the
> malloc version used at runtime, and that the runtime malloc is not
> doing any sanity checks to catch and abort when a pointer into .data
> is passed to realloc/free.

Or that the libc memory allocation routines can gracefully handle
these situations.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-04 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-04 17:57 Dumper issue, revisited; invalid realloc/free Rich Felker
2015-02-04 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-04 19:13   ` Rich Felker
2015-02-04 19:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-04 19:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-04 20:34       ` Ken Brown
2015-02-05  1:31         ` Rich Felker
2015-02-05  3:25           ` Rich Felker
2015-02-05  3:48             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-05  4:33               ` Rich Felker
2015-02-05 16:14                 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-02-05 18:43                   ` Rich Felker
2015-02-04 19:21 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-02-04 19:37   ` Rich Felker
2015-02-04 19:44     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-04 19:49       ` Rich Felker
2015-02-04 19:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-04 20:02           ` Rich Felker
2015-02-04 20:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-04 20:08       ` Rich Felker
2015-02-04 20:40         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-04 22:17           ` Rich Felker
2015-02-05  3:42             ` Eli Zaretskii

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