From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 20:41:52 +0200 Message-ID: <83oaano5n3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <64a52598-ad53-498c-993c-67d7827dbdfc@default> <838u1uuuau.fsf@gnu.org> <878u1um2xl.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> <87fuw090k7.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83y49spuxt.fsf@gnu.org> <87pov4achc.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <83r3fkpb3u.fsf@gnu.org> <8337rzpps8.fsf@gnu.org> <56E06A61.4040508@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457548918 29085 80.91.229.3 (9 Mar 2016 18:41:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 18:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, i.lohmar@gmail.com, johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 09 19:41:57 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1adj3S-0002iC-TB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 19:41:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43464 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adj3O-00008i-OB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:41:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59037) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adj3L-00008E-6f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:41:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adj3K-0002x7-Ba for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:41:47 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43969) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adj3G-0002wc-GZ; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:41:42 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4116 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1adj3F-0000b3-MO; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:41:42 -0500 In-reply-to: <56E06A61.4040508@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:24:33 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201279 Archived-At: > Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, i.lohmar@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:24:33 -0800 > > The coreutils-like approach that I recently proposed should satisfy > requirements (2) through (7). See: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-03/msg00391.html It doesn't satisfy (3). More generally, it won't work because it requires the amendments to be in a form that is tedious to produce and error-prone. I don't see how we can have more motivation for using this than we have for the current method. This method is fine for a small group of veteran hackers who never make mistakes writing Perl editing commands (but then those hackers don't need this facility anyway) and when the number of amendments is small. So: thanks, but no, thanks.