From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18083: 24.4.50; (emacs) Arguments and (elisp) Prefix Command Arguments Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 08:33:44 +0300 Message-ID: <83oa8rvex3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87oa8sm596.fsf@gnus.org> <75d42f7e-707b-44e9-90b1-9b5d04207961@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1461994554 1988 80.91.229.3 (30 Apr 2016 05:35:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 05:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18083@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 30 07:35:43 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1awNZ7-0002Tt-QE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 07:35:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57417 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awNZ3-0008H0-CC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 01:35:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45521) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awNYj-0007rl-3f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 01:35:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awNYX-0000Gw-G9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 01:35:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:43991) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awNYX-0000Fv-DX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 01:35:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awNYU-00011g-1j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 01:35:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 05:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18083 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18083-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18083.14619944723901 (code B ref 18083); Sat, 30 Apr 2016 05:35:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18083) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2016 05:34:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56328 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awNY0-00010r-Cd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 01:34:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54442) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awNXy-00010f-IL for 18083@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 01:34:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awNXj-0008UE-V4 for 18083@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 01:34:22 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49055) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awNXj-0008TX-RJ; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 01:34:15 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1562 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1awNXd-0000x6-KB; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 01:34:10 -0400 In-reply-to: <75d42f7e-707b-44e9-90b1-9b5d04207961@default> (message from Drew Adams on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:01:41 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117306 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:01:41 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 18083@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Both of these nodes speak of `M--', `M-3', etc. They should also > > > mention the equivalent `C--', `C-3', etc. > > > > I wonder whether the reason they aren't mentioned is that they're > > deprecated or something? Anybody know? > > No, they are not deprecated. Presumably they are not mentioned > because they are not available in some Emacs terminal sessions. > > That doesn't mean we shouldn't mention them - we should just > point out that they might not be available in some contexts. FWIW, I know about them, but never use them. So I'm not sure we should mention them in the manual. > They are particularly handy if you are using prefix args > a lot or repetitively, as they use the same modifier as `C-u'. > And they are somewhat easier for some people to type on some > (common) keyboards. I'm probably missing something because I don't see how both of the above is not true about M-3 etc.