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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Rationale behind conversion of a nil prefix arg to numeric 1
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2016 17:23:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83oa43d9r8.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y437c0qg.fsf@bertrandrussell.Speedport_W_723V_1_40_000> (florian@fsavigny.de)

> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2016 14:23:35 +0200
> From: florian@fsavigny.de (Florian v. Savigny)
> 
> Naively, I used the numeric conversion of the prefix arg, i.e.
> 
>    (interactive "p")
> 
> which passes the prefix arg converted to a number. However, if I call
> the function with no prefix argument, which is, expectedly, nil in raw
> form, it converts this to the number 1. (This is what
> `prefix-numeric-value' does, as explained in the docstring.)
> 
> While I understand that this is how it is done, I am quite puzzled
> about the logic behind this. It would seem intuitive to me to convert
> nil to either the number 0 or, again, nil, but never to the number
> 1. And practically, converting nil to 1 has the consequence that
> calling the command with no prefix arg:
> 
>    M-x command
> 
> is exactly the same as calling it with a prefix arg of 1:
> 
>    C-u 1 M-x command
> 
> because the prefix arg converted to a number is 1 in both cases, which
> reduces the number of possibilities of calling the command by one.
> 
> I can circumvent this (and get the behaviour that I would expect) by
> writing the function with
> 
>    (if current-prefix-arg (prefix-numeric-value current-prefix-arg))
> 
> in an explicit interactive list, but I am still wondering about the
> rationale of representing nil as the number one. Does this make sense,
> or is it useful, in some way?

Yes.  Most commands use the argument as a repeat count, so having it
default to one makes perfect sense.



  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-04 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-04 12:23 Rationale behind conversion of a nil prefix arg to numeric 1 Florian v. Savigny
2016-09-04 14:23 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-09-04 17:11   ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-04 18:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-05  7:16       ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-05 14:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-05 15:22           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-09-05 16:32             ` Drew Adams
2016-09-05 18:41             ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-05 19:02               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-06  7:10                 ` tomas
2016-09-06  9:45                   ` Florian v. Savigny
2016-09-06 10:27                     ` tomas
2016-09-06 11:27                     ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-06 13:27                       ` Florian v. Savigny
2016-09-06 15:22                         ` Drew Adams
2016-09-06 14:20                       ` Kaushal Modi
2016-09-06 16:44                         ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-06 16:41                           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-09-07 23:11                         ` Charles Millar
2016-09-08 13:10                           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-09-08 14:42                             ` Charles Millar
2016-09-08 15:40                           ` Drew Adams
2016-09-06  7:22                 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-05 17:04         ` Drew Adams
2016-09-05 21:39           ` Florian v. Savigny
     [not found]           ` <<877faqvxfp.fsf@bertrandrussell.Speedport_W_723V_1_40_000>
2016-09-05 23:32             ` Drew Adams
2016-09-06  3:45               ` B.V. Raghav
2016-09-04 22:53   ` Florian v. Savigny
     [not found]   ` <<87d1kjjmys.fsf@bertrandrussell.Speedport_W_723V_1_40_000>
2016-09-05  0:52     ` Drew Adams
2016-09-15 12:47 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen

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