From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: windows installer Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 14:01:11 +0200 Message-ID: <83o9o9nhx4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87po99qzbn.fsf@russet.org.uk> <1509955878.550800.1162811960.541B525D@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87h8u6bae3.fsf@russet.org.uk> <1510126271.1965593.1165373624.0601E5CF@webmail.messagingengine.com> <8760aijcek.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ineiotjr.fsf@gnu.org> <87375l4sui.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83d14pp87b.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2t53vom.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1510401682 26517 195.159.176.226 (11 Nov 2017 12:01:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 12:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net, jostein@kjonigsen.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 11 13:01:18 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eDUTN-0006hw-Cy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 13:01:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45270 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eDUTU-0004zb-OW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 07:01:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45097) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eDUTL-0004y4-B0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 07:01:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eDUTH-0000iZ-5f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 07:01:15 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55219) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eDUTH-0000iS-0o; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 07:01:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2024 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eDUTG-00019x-Dj; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 07:01:10 -0500 In-reply-to: <87r2t53vom.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220069 Archived-At: > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 11:24:09 +0000 > Cc: jostein@kjonigsen.net, jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > IOW, Emacs is not just a GUI application used interactively, it is > > also a program that supports batch-mode invocation, and that mode is > > at times used by other programs. Keeping the Emacs binary off the > > users' system PATH is therefore less than ideal, because the users > > will then bump into subtle problems whereby Emacs seems "unavailable". > > I suspect that these sort of users will install with the zip file or > equivalent. If that's our solution, then this should be prominently mentioned in the README file. (As one of "these sort of users", I use installers in many cases, and would not expect myself to be considered "special". But since you are doing the work, it's your call. I obviously have no problems with unzipping a zip archive as the method of installing a package.) Anyway, in general, I see no reason why we couldn't cater to both groups, since updating PATH is not hard, and many/most installers offer that, at least as an option.