From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to view raw text in Emacs? Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:18:52 +0300 Message-ID: <83o9iw246b.fsf@gnu.org> References: <874lkpv5wa.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <87h8opjqro.fsf@bsb.me.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1522999031 5394 195.159.176.226 (6 Apr 2018 07:17:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 07:17:11 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 06 09:17:07 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f4LcQ-0001Ir-Fr for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2018 09:17:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60075 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f4LeW-0007eC-4b for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2018 03:19:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47010) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f4Ldz-0007d0-O6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2018 03:18:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f4Ldu-0002VB-7F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2018 03:18:43 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59153) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f4Ldu-0002V5-3h for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2018 03:18:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4467 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1f4Lds-0006y3-VY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2018 03:18:37 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Will Parsons on Thu, 5 Apr 2018 22:57:44 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116367 Archived-At: > From: Will Parsons > Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 22:57:44 -0400 > > But, yes, if you *really* want to know what's in the buffer, then > hexl-mode will give you that information. Not in the _buffer_, in the _file_. The internal representation of text in the buffer is never revealed to Lisp and to users, and needs some non-trivial tricks to show. (Not that I think users will want to see that anyway.)