From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31852: Make memory-limit obsolete Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 18:02:03 +0300 Message-ID: <83o9gazses.fsf@gnu.org> References: <510fa6e2-38e5-f5cf-e1c8-4a1a553a162d@cs.ucla.edu> <83in6j1bus.fsf@gnu.org> <36f43145-ab73-d6e4-ae70-4d801bfe7583@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1529161271 5852 195.159.176.226 (16 Jun 2018 15:01:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 15:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 31852@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 16 17:01:07 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUChO-0001Qn-PV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 17:01:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51771 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCjV-00076u-VA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:03:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58181) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCjJ-00076n-FU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:03:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCjG-0001Fy-Dn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:03:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:43881) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCjG-0001Fm-9I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCjF-0004B2-T6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:03:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 15:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31852 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 31852-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31852.152916134316002 (code B ref 31852); Sat, 16 Jun 2018 15:03:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31852) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jun 2018 15:02:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51778 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCid-0004A2-5H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:02:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38858) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCib-00049n-Dw for 31852@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:02:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCiS-0000zG-W1 for 31852@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:02:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37444) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCiS-0000z7-S9; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:02:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3728 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCiS-0006kZ-Dl; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:02:12 -0400 In-reply-to: <36f43145-ab73-d6e4-ae70-4d801bfe7583@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Sat, 16 Jun 2018 06:38:55 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:147506 Archived-At: > Cc: 31852@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 06:38:55 -0700 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > I don't understand what we gain by declaring > > this tiny function obsolete > > Nobody uses the function (clearly, since it doesn't work) so we gain simplicity, > which is a win. If nobody uses the function, I see no gain at all, because obsoleting a function tells those who use it not to. > > Wouldn't it be enough just to add to the function's > > documentation a note that the estimation should be expected to be > > inaccurate with modern memory-management technologies? > > Complicating the documentation would work against the goal of > simplicity. Then let's just move this to Lisp, and do nothing else. That's even simpler, IMO.