From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: hw <hw@adminart.net>
Cc: psainty@orcon.net.nz, gazally@runbox.com, rms@gnu.org,
emacs-devel-bounces+psainty=orcon.net.nz@gnu.org,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: User interaction from multiple threads
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:48:39 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83o9dk0xu0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877ek9oscr.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> (message from hw on Wed, 29 Aug 2018 22:00:52 +0200)
> From: hw <hw@adminart.net>
> Cc: psainty@orcon.net.nz, gazally@runbox.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel-bounces+psainty=orcon.net.nz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 22:00:52 +0200
>
> >> What information is available when a thread is created?
> >
> > See 'make-thread' for the gory details, but in a nutshell, just the
> > function which the thread will run and the optional name.
>
> Hm. I wish the description would also say how much overhead is involved
> in creating a thread to give us some idea about when to start a thread
> and when not.
There's very little overhead, but if you are interested in the
details, I suggest to read thread.c. It's not a lot of code, and the
ideas are quite simple.
> Knowing only the name of a function and maybe a name for the thread is
> not much. What if the function calls other functions which prompt the
> user? Is it possible to show a backtrace so the user can get some idea
> about what might have caused the prompt to appear?
Someone wrote a mode where you can list threads and display their
backtraces.
> What if the name is designed maliciously?
Why would you run malicious code? This is orthogonal to the issue
being discussed here.
> Also, the user goes like "I want to copy files" rather than "I want to
> call this function". I call functions when I can't remember what
> keystrokes to use but have an idea of how the function may be called.
> How is the function called that deletes files? Does that depend on
> whether the files are remote or local? What do I do when I can't figure
> out what Emacs wants to know when it shows a prompt?
These questions again are orthogonal to the issue at hand, I think.
> If Emacs learns that she usually does not press '!', it could change its
> strategy :) But when it can prepare stuff using another thread, what
> does it matter when it's wrong?
So we will need to have machine learning in Emacs for this to work
satisfactorily?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-30 13:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-14 15:12 User interaction from multiple threads Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-14 16:42 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2018-08-15 8:02 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-16 14:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-17 2:59 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2018-08-17 8:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-15 8:06 ` martin rudalics
2018-08-15 8:22 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-15 9:08 ` martin rudalics
2018-08-15 10:30 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-15 12:27 ` martin rudalics
2018-08-15 12:59 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-15 16:27 ` Elias Mårtenson
2018-08-15 18:04 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-17 4:26 ` Elias Mårtenson
2018-08-17 4:32 ` Elias Mårtenson
2018-08-17 7:33 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-17 7:48 ` Elias Mårtenson
2018-08-17 8:11 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-17 9:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-15 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-16 12:21 ` martin rudalics
2018-08-16 13:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-17 7:24 ` martin rudalics
2018-08-17 7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-17 8:34 ` martin rudalics
2018-08-17 8:52 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-08-17 9:06 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-17 9:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-18 8:31 ` martin rudalics
2018-08-18 9:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-19 9:17 ` martin rudalics
2018-08-15 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-16 12:20 ` martin rudalics
2018-08-16 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-16 15:19 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-20 14:36 ` Gemini Lasswell
2018-08-20 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-19 23:08 ` Gemini Lasswell
2018-08-20 1:18 ` Phil Sainty
2018-08-20 14:15 ` Gemini Lasswell
2018-08-20 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-29 17:36 ` John Shahid
2018-08-30 0:18 ` Phil Sainty
2018-08-30 2:34 ` John Shahid
2018-08-30 13:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-30 16:08 ` John Shahid
2018-08-30 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-30 20:15 ` John Shahid
2018-08-31 18:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-31 21:37 ` Gemini Lasswell
2018-09-01 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-20 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-20 22:38 ` Phil Sainty
2018-08-21 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-22 4:05 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-22 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-22 15:48 ` hw
2018-08-22 17:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-22 19:34 ` hw
2018-08-22 23:58 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-23 0:22 ` John Wiegley
2018-08-24 1:59 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-23 14:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-23 22:34 ` Phil Sainty
2018-08-24 8:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-24 12:59 ` Phil Sainty
2018-08-25 0:21 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-25 0:16 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-24 2:00 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-24 3:57 ` Elias Mårtenson
2018-08-24 9:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-24 11:44 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-24 15:41 ` Elias Mårtenson
2018-08-25 11:58 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-27 10:53 ` Elias Mårtenson
2018-08-25 0:20 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-25 7:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-25 10:32 ` Phil Sainty
2018-08-25 19:11 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-25 19:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-26 12:52 ` hw
2018-08-26 14:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-27 4:33 ` hw
2018-08-27 7:32 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-27 14:35 ` hw
2018-08-27 15:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-27 18:43 ` hw
2018-08-28 5:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-28 20:47 ` hw
2018-08-27 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-27 19:46 ` hw
2018-08-28 5:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-28 13:05 ` Phil Sainty
2018-08-28 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-28 22:05 ` hw
2018-08-29 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-29 20:00 ` hw
2018-08-30 13:48 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-09-01 17:32 ` hw
2018-09-01 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-02 16:37 ` hw
2018-09-02 17:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-01 22:30 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-02 16:43 ` hw
2018-08-30 1:16 ` Uday S Reddy
2018-08-30 13:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-30 21:12 ` Uday Reddy
2018-08-31 18:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-01 17:33 ` hw
2018-08-26 20:43 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-22 16:24 ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-22 17:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-25 16:16 ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-22 7:18 ` martin rudalics
2018-08-22 14:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-21 16:17 ` Gemini Lasswell
2018-08-30 0:21 ` Uday Reddy
2018-08-30 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
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