From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33398: 26.1, netbsd-8; Hi Lock Faces, Hi Green B, default setting suggestion Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 09:16:43 +0200 Message-ID: <83o9a7c9wk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9B715204-BE6D-4F02-B484-1EA9EDACE0EB@scratch.space> <4D07BB6C-98A9-4EC2-BB37-097D5D753E53@scratch.space> <87wopbzeuy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87d0r04tmg.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87sgzv747k.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <740AF1DA-7EDB-4310-8C6E-F7944D714513@scratch.space> <87sgzuca5o.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87a7m0hi5t.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <837eh4gpjd.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7lyi29o.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <837eh1jeak.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1l0c3be.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83h8g3j0aa.fsf@gnu.org> <87y39fmnbn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83mupvgj18.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2f6hzf1.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87ftvkssxh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <838t1ce3tw.fsf@gnu.org> <871s73cybi.fsf@mail.linkov.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1543562119 17587 195.159.176.226 (30 Nov 2018 07:15:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 07:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: van@scratch.space, 33398@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 30 08:15:15 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gSd19-0004SX-5z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 30 Nov 2018 02:16:33 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41991) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gSd2L-0008KT-2q; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 02:16:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3091 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gSd2K-00070N-L7; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 02:16:28 -0500 In-reply-to: <871s73cybi.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Fri, 30 Nov 2018 00:29:21 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:152916 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: van@scratch.space, 33398@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 00:29:21 +0200 > > > I don't see how "gold" can be translated to "red", sorry. It > > translates to yellow shades on both 8- and 16-color TTYs, as expected. > > Did you try "IndianRed" instead? > > Unfortunately, "IndianRed" is so dark that it's unreadable. > Whereas "Gold" is so prefect, that I can't find a replacement. > But are translations really required? I created a definition > that works well on all environments (I see that "gold" looks good > on a graphical terminal, but on a 256-color TTY "orange" is better). > Do you see a problem with these best-looking faces? Yes, I definitely see a problem when a face called "hi-gold" is displayed as red on some devices. Are you saying that none of the shades of red in rgb.txt is good enough to use on GUI frames where "red" is used on TTYs? I find that hard to believe. What about DarkOrange, what about Coral, what about OrangeRed, what about LightSalmon[1-3], what about sienna[1-3], what about IndianRed1, what about tomato[1-3], chocolate[1-3], etc.? Call it "hi-reddish" if you must, just don't have something called "gold" look red on TTYs, please.