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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Andy Moreton <andrewjmoreton@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: HarfBuzz is available on MS-Windows
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:00:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83o939p3n6.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vz1lfydba24.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Andy Moreton on Fri, 07 Jun 2019 18:05:23 +0100)

> From: Andy Moreton <andrewjmoreton@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 18:05:23 +0100
> 
> I've tested this with an MSYS2 64bit build on Windows 10.

Thanks, you can now just build the master branch.

> It appears to work ok, but is noticeably slower compared to the
> master branch.

I didn't see any tangible slowdown with HarfBuzz on my system.  Can
you post some benchmarks with timings?  (I assume both branches were
built using the same optimization switches.)

> a) On harfbuzz and master branches from "emacs -Q", a machine without
> the Symbola font does not display the emoji U+1F44B WAVING HAND SIGN (no
> font available). Babelmap shows that this character is available using
> the built-in "Segoe UI Symbol" or "Segoe UI Emoji" fonts (or by
> installing Symbola).
> 
> b) On the harfbuzz branch from "emacs -Q", the lao U+EC3 LAO VOWEL SIGN
> AY and U+EC3 LAO VOWEL SIGN O characters are not displayed (no font
> available). Babelmap shows that this character is available using the
> built-in "Leelawadee UI" font.

BabelMap just shows coverage, but Emacs also tests additional features
of the fonts (although I don't think we have any special requirements
for Emoji; Lao certainly does require some OTF features).

In any case, the font backend has nothing whatsoever to do with how
Emacs searches for a suitable font, at least on Windows.  What the
above means is that Leelawadee somehow doesn't fit the criteria for
the Lao script and/or the features bits these fonts exhibit don't
announce that they cover the respective codepoint ranges.  The way to
improve the font search is to customize the fontsets.

> I use the following to speed up finding built-in fonts on Windows 10:
> 
>   (pcase-dolist
>       (`(,font-spec . ,targets)
>        '(;; Unicode blocks ---------------------------------------
>          ("Segoe UI Emoji"
>           (#x1f900 . #x1f9ff)) ; Supplemental Symbols and Pictographs
>          ;; Unicode scripts --------------------------------------
>          ("Segoe UI Symbol"      braille mathematical symbol)
>          ("Leelawadee UI"        khmer thai lao)
>          ("Nirmala UI"           bengali devanagari gujarati kannada
>           malayalam oriya sinhala tamil telugu)
>          ("Microsoft Himalaya"   tibetan)
>          ("Myanmar Text"         burmese)
>          ("Ebrima"               ethiopic)
>          ("Gadugi"               canadian-aboriginal cherokee)))
>     (dolist (target targets)
>       (set-fontset-font "fontset-default" target font-spec nil 'prepend)))
> 
> Perhaps the built in fonts should be added to the default mappings for
> Windows 10.

I think the policy is not to mention non-free fonts in our fontsets.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-07 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-31 13:57 HarfBuzz is available on MS-Windows Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-31 14:25 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-31 14:59   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-31 16:44     ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-31 17:13       ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-31 18:04         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-31 19:35           ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-31 18:00       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-31 20:53 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-31 22:10   ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-01  6:36     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-02 18:46 ` Phillip Lord
2019-06-02 18:56   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-02 19:07     ` Phillip Lord
2019-06-02 20:36       ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-03  2:42         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-03  3:27           ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-03  3:52             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-03  4:07               ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-03  6:49                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-04  4:51 ` Tak Kunihiro
2019-06-04 14:16   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-07 17:05 ` Andy Moreton
2019-06-07 20:00   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-06-07 21:13     ` Andy Moreton
2019-06-08  6:18       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-08 12:11         ` Andy Moreton
2019-06-08 12:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-05-31 20:24 Angelo Graziosi
2019-06-01  6:13 ` Eli Zaretskii

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