bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Jean Louis]

I have Lucid GUI built Emacs, using it with toolbar, without menu, so
I pressed F10, and chose Help -> Tutorial, and all my X session
crushed.


In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 15, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.14.8, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2020-09-24 built on protected.rcdrun.com
Repository revision: de54cd6f0edb3619777c17fe75560c5c84fed8a4
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11907000
System Description: Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre

Configured using:
 'configure --prefix=/package/text/emacs-2020-09-24
 --with-x-toolkit=lucid --with-modules --without-gpm
 PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/data1/protected/GNUstep/Library/Libraries/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig'

Configured features:
XAW3D XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG CAIRO SOUND DBUS GSETTINGS GLIB
NOTIFY INOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE HARFBUZZ M17N_FLT LIBOTF
ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS LUCID X11 XDBE XIM MODULES THREADS JSON
PDUMPER LCMS2

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  value of $LC_ALL: de_DE.UTF-8
  value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=exwm-xim
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

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  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
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  file-name-shadow-mode: t
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bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 07:23:28 +0200
> 
> I have Lucid GUI built Emacs, using it with toolbar, without menu, so
> I pressed F10, and chose Help -> Tutorial, and all my X session
> crushed.

Thanks for reporting this bug.  Does this happen if you start Emacs as
"emacs -Q", disable the menu, and then press F10 and select the
Tutorial item?

In any case, please run Emacs under GDB, and when it crashes, type at
GDB's prompt

  (gdb) thread apply all bt

and post here everything GDP prints.

bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Jean Louis]

* Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> [2020-09-28 09:37]:
> > From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
> > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 07:23:28 +0200
> > 
> > I have Lucid GUI built Emacs, using it with toolbar, without menu, so
> > I pressed F10, and chose Help -> Tutorial, and all my X session
> > crushed.
> 
> Thanks for reporting this bug.  Does this happen if you start Emacs as
> "emacs -Q", disable the menu, and then press F10 and select the
> Tutorial item?
> 
> In any case, please run Emacs under GDB, and when it crashes, type at
> GDB's prompt
> 
>   (gdb) thread apply all bt
> 
> and post here everything GDP prints.

It is hard to reproduce the bug, it could be also something related to
EXWM, I cannot reproduce it, I was myself surprised as I have not seen
crushes for years.

Then I got several other crushes of X session all together, but not
related to menu.

I cannot reproduce it now.

I am using Lucid toolkit, and when I pressed F10, the menu list opened
in the bottom left corner, but now I cannot bring it to open it in
bottom left corner, as that corner could be related to the crush.

bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:03:59 +0300
> From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
> Cc: 43664@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > In any case, please run Emacs under GDB, and when it crashes, type at
> > GDB's prompt
> > 
> >   (gdb) thread apply all bt
> > 
> > and post here everything GDP prints.
> 
> It is hard to reproduce the bug, it could be also something related to
> EXWM, I cannot reproduce it, I was myself surprised as I have not seen
> crushes for years.

Then I suggest to run Emacs under GDB as a matter of routine, so that
if and when it eventually crashes, you will be able to report the
backtrace.  We need that backtrace to make progress with this problem.

bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Jean Louis]

* Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> [2020-09-30 17:09]:
> > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:03:59 +0300
> > From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
> > Cc: 43664@debbugs.gnu.org
> > 
> > > In any case, please run Emacs under GDB, and when it crashes, type at
> > > GDB's prompt
> > > 
> > >   (gdb) thread apply all bt
> > > 
> > > and post here everything GDP prints.
> > 
> > It is hard to reproduce the bug, it could be also something related to
> > EXWM, I cannot reproduce it, I was myself surprised as I have not seen
> > crushes for years.
> 
> Then I suggest to run Emacs under GDB as a matter of routine, so that
> if and when it eventually crashes, you will be able to report the
> backtrace.  We need that backtrace to make progress with this problem.

I was thinking the same.

I am launching Emacs from .xinitrc with exec emacs or sometimes from
Window Managers.

What command line do you suggest? Is it like this:

gdb -ex run emacs

bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Jean Louis]

* Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> [2020-09-30 17:09]:
> > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:03:59 +0300
> > From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
> > Cc: 43664@debbugs.gnu.org
> > 
> > > In any case, please run Emacs under GDB, and when it crashes, type at
> > > GDB's prompt
> > > 
> > >   (gdb) thread apply all bt
> > > 
> > > and post here everything GDP prints.
> > 
> > It is hard to reproduce the bug, it could be also something related to
> > EXWM, I cannot reproduce it, I was myself surprised as I have not seen
> > crushes for years.
> 
> Then I suggest to run Emacs under GDB as a matter of routine, so that
> if and when it eventually crashes, you will be able to report the
> backtrace.  We need that backtrace to make progress with this
> problem.

I should run like:

#!/bin/bash
gdb -ex run emacs

But do you know how can I pass command line arguments like "$@"?

bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:12:24 +0300
> From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
> Cc: 43664@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > Then I suggest to run Emacs under GDB as a matter of routine, so that
> > if and when it eventually crashes, you will be able to report the
> > backtrace.  We need that backtrace to make progress with this problem.
> 
> I was thinking the same.
> 
> I am launching Emacs from .xinitrc with exec emacs or sometimes from
> Window Managers.
> 
> What command line do you suggest? Is it like this:
> 
> gdb -ex run emacs

Either that, or launch Emacs normally, and immediately attach GDB to
it ("gdb -p EMACS-PID").

bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:46:52 +0300
> From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
> Cc: 43664@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> gdb -ex run emacs
> 
> But do you know how can I pass command line arguments like "$@"?

"gdb --help" to the rescue:

  gdb --args emacs $@

bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Jean Louis]

* Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> [2020-09-30 17:58]:
> > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:46:52 +0300
> > From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
> > Cc: 43664@debbugs.gnu.org
> > 
> > #!/bin/bash
> > gdb -ex run emacs
> > 
> > But do you know how can I pass command line arguments like "$@"?
> 
> "gdb --help" to the rescue:
> 
>   gdb --args emacs $@

Thank you.

I was looking into manual, and did not find the option --args in the
manual so that is bug in the manual, at least on my side.



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bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Andreas Schwab]

On Sep 30 2020, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:46:52 +0300
>> From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
>> Cc: 43664@debbugs.gnu.org
>> 
>> #!/bin/bash
>> gdb -ex run emacs
>> 
>> But do you know how can I pass command line arguments like "$@"?
>
> "gdb --help" to the rescue:
>
>   gdb --args emacs $@

Don't forget the quotes.

    gdb --args emacs "$@"

Andreas.

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"And now for something completely different."

bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 18:04:16 +0300
> From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
> Cc: 43664@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > "gdb --help" to the rescue:
> > 
> >   gdb --args emacs $@
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> I was looking into manual, and did not find the option --args in the
> manual so that is bug in the manual, at least on my side.
> 
> 
> 
> GDB(1) -- 2017-04-04 -- gdb-7.12.1 -- GNU Development Tools

Is your GDB really v7.12.1?  The latest release was GDB 9.2, with 10.1
just around the corner.

bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Andreas Schwab]

On Sep 30 2020, Jean Louis wrote:

> I was looking into manual, and did not find the option --args in the
> manual so that is bug in the manual, at least on my side.

$ gdb --help | grep -e --args
    gdb [options] --args executable-file [inferior-arguments ...]
  --args             Arguments after executable-file are passed to inferior

Andreas.

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bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Glenn Morris]

Is running emacs under a debugger going to help if OP's entire X session
crashes?

bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>,  43664@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 11:58:24 -0400
> 
> Is running emacs under a debugger going to help if OP's entire X session
> crashes?

No.  But if that's what you understood from the report, you have a
better understanding of what happens than I do.

bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Jean Louis]

* Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> [2020-09-30 18:26]:
> > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 18:04:16 +0300
> > From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
> > Cc: 43664@debbugs.gnu.org
> > 
> > > "gdb --help" to the rescue:
> > > 
> > >   gdb --args emacs $@
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > I was looking into manual, and did not find the option --args in the
> > manual so that is bug in the manual, at least on my side.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > GDB(1) -- 2017-04-04 -- gdb-7.12.1 -- GNU Development Tools
> 
> Is your GDB really v7.12.1?  The latest release was GDB 9.2, with 10.1
> just around the corner.

GNU gdb (GDB) 7.12.1

Yes, because that is packaged with Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre but I
could put latest version if really necessary.

bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Glenn Morris]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> Is running emacs under a debugger going to help if OP's entire X session
>> crashes?
>
> No.  But if that's what you understood from the report, you have a
> better understanding of what happens than I do.

How else to interpret "crash of X" in the subject and "all my X session
crashed" from the one sentence OP (assuming "crush" means "crash").

bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
>>> Is running emacs under a debugger going to help if OP's entire X session
>>> crashes?
>>
>> No.  But if that's what you understood from the report, you have a
>> better understanding of what happens than I do.
>
> How else to interpret "crash of X" in the subject and "all my X session
> crashed" from the one sentence OP (assuming "crush" means "crash").

That was my interpretation, too.  Jean, was this what you meant?

In any case, has there been any progress in debugging this, or has the
problem gone away?

-- 
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bug#43664: 28.0.50; Crush of X after choosing F10 -> Tutorial

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
>>> Is running emacs under a debugger going to help if OP's entire X session
>>> crashes?
>>
>> No.  But if that's what you understood from the report, you have a
>> better understanding of what happens than I do.
>
> How else to interpret "crash of X" in the subject and "all my X session
> crashed" from the one sentence OP (assuming "crush" means "crash").

This was the final message in this bug report 14 weeks ago, so I'm
guessing no further progress will be made here, and I'm closing it.

If the problem persists, opening a new bug report with a new description
of the problem is probably the best way forward.

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