From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36729: 27.0.50; Unclear total in directory listing Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 17:23:36 +0300 Message-ID: <83o8le868n.fsf@gnu.org> References: <048FD91B-CDA0-4444-8F6F-C5B2F5C595CD@acm.org> <83k1ceusn1.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgr2887n.fsf@gmx.net> <871rjyn5hn.fsf@gnus.org> <87mu2hen02.fsf@gmx.net> <87r1qa4pct.fsf@gnus.org> <838scia2zu.fsf@gnu.org> <84AFB7F6-D925-4552-A165-927996C1C7B6@acm.org> <83zh4y8c7c.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4467"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net, 36729@debbugs.gnu.org To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 07 16:25:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kQANc-00012g-4Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 16:25:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54162 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQANb-00017h-7E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 10:25:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40574) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQAMN-0008Gd-9q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 10:24:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46109) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQAMM-0002x4-1N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 10:24:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQAML-0004vg-Rm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 10:24:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 14:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36729 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix patch Original-Received: via spool by 36729-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36729.160208062718924 (code B ref 36729); Wed, 07 Oct 2020 14:24:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36729) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2020 14:23:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57655 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQALz-0004v3-Pi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 10:23:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33686) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQALy-0004ur-86 for 36729@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 10:23:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45627) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQALs-0002wG-Hq; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 10:23:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1704 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kQALr-0002zS-Rf; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 10:23:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= on Wed, 7 Oct 2020 15:50:36 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:190031 Archived-At: > From: Mattias EngdegÄrd > Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 15:50:36 +0200 > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net, 36729@debbugs.gnu.org > > > You mean, we cannot even say in what units those numbers are measured? > > That's right. It may be blocks, sectors, KiB, or baker's dozens. There may be ways to influence the unit (switches, environment variables) but not portably, and there is no way of telling what effects such efforts take, if any. Doesn't the result come from get-free-disk-space, which calls file-system-info, which reports in known units? Or am I confused?