From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The unwarranted scrolling assumption Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:38:16 +0300 Message-ID: <83mxuqg0tz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83iq5hiiin.fsf@gnu.org> <83fx0lihov.fsf@gnu.org> <838w6cixma.fsf@gnu.org> <83y6ech1oo.fsf@gnu.org> <83ocf8gx7e.fsf@gnu.org> <83fx0jgxk7.fsf@gnu.org> <83eig3gspa.fsf@gnu.org> <83bpb7gp2g.fsf@gnu.org> <837hlvglvh.fsf@gnu.org> <834ogzglaj.fsf@gnu.org> <8339wjgg8w.fsf@gnu.org> <83y6eagb7g.fsf@gnu.org> <4C1D24E3.5080402@harpegolden.net> <83sk4ig1t7.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276983633 21512 80.91.229.12 (19 Jun 2010 21:40:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:40:33 +0000 (UTC) To: david@harpegolden.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 19 23:40:32 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OQ5mA-0003jR-Hn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:40:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41781 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OQ5m9-00022x-Tw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:40:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49634 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OQ5m4-00022r-0I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:40:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OQ5m2-0007kx-Rj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:40:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:64551) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OQ5m2-0007kr-IU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:40:22 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L4A00K006TDCD00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:40:18 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.178.198]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L4A00G6A6V5AA90@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:40:18 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <83sk4ig1t7.fsf@gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126258 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:17:08 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:13:23 +0100 > > From: David De La Harpe Golden > > > > I can still get it to happen easily by ramping up keyboard repeat rate, > > but it happens quite often on HELLO even at reasonable rates. > > Thanks for testing. > > HELLO turns on bidi-display-reordering, which affects scrolling > through problems that are specific to the bidi redisplay. Can you > still see recentering if you turn bidi-display-reordering off in > HELLO, like this: > > M-: (setq bidi-display-reordering nil) > > ? Also, do you see the recentering only the first time you scroll through HELLO, or also after that? That is, if you first lean on the arrow key and scroll through the entire file, then type C-Home and lean again on , do you see recentering again on the second scroll through the file? TIA