* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
@ 2012-09-11 9:08 Bastien
2012-09-11 10:26 ` Andreas Schwab
0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-09-11 9:08 UTC (permalink / raw
To: 12412
I ran `make distclean' three times. The first time it ran
./configure. The second time it didn't run ./configure. The
third time it didn't run at all because of the absence of
Makefile.
Each time the lisp/*.elc files are left untouched/undeleted.
I expected them to be deleted -- what am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
In GNU Emacs 24.2.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10)
of 2012-09-10 on myhost
Bzr revision: 109965 cyd@gnu.org-20120910032510-vrblnwlfnsb0cx3s
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11201000
Important settings:
value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF-8
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
default enable-multibyte-characters: t
--
Bastien
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 9:08 bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Bastien
@ 2012-09-11 10:26 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-09-11 12:31 ` Bastien
0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2012-09-11 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Bastien; +Cc: 12412
distclean does not remove distributed files.
Andreas.
--
Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5
"And now for something completely different."
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 10:26 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2012-09-11 12:31 ` Bastien
2012-09-11 12:43 ` Andreas Schwab
0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-09-11 12:31 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: 12412
Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> writes:
> distclean does not remove distributed files.
It is hard to guess in the absence of `make help'.
From INSTALL:
...
4. If you need to run the `configure' script more than once (e.g.,
with some non-default options), always clean the source
directories before running `configure' again:
make distclean
./configure
...
To also remove the files
that `configure' created (so you can compile Emacs for a different
configuration), type `make distclean'.
How to remove the .elc files?
What is the difference between `make clean' and `make distclean'?
--
Bastien
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 12:31 ` Bastien
@ 2012-09-11 12:43 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-09-11 13:06 ` Bastien
0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2012-09-11 12:43 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Bastien; +Cc: 12412
Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:
> Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> writes:
>
>> distclean does not remove distributed files.
>
> It is hard to guess in the absence of `make help'.
* Note (standards) Standard Targets::
Andreas.
--
Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5
"And now for something completely different."
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 12:43 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2012-09-11 13:06 ` Bastien
2012-09-11 13:25 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-09-11 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-09-11 13:06 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: 12412
Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> writes:
> Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:
>
>> Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> writes:
>>
>>> distclean does not remove distributed files.
>>
>> It is hard to guess in the absence of `make help'.
>
> * Note (standards) Standard Targets::
So what I'm looking for is `make maintainer-clean'.
But ̀make help' would still help.
And from the info page above, I infer that the `clean'
and `distclean' targets should remove the .elc files.
--
Bastien
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 13:06 ` Bastien
@ 2012-09-11 13:25 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-09-11 13:31 ` Bastien
2012-09-11 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2012-09-11 13:25 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Bastien; +Cc: 12412
Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:
> And from the info page above, I infer that the `clean'
> and `distclean' targets should remove the .elc files.
No, they are distributed.
Andreas.
--
Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5
"And now for something completely different."
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 13:25 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2012-09-11 13:31 ` Bastien
2012-09-11 13:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-09-11 16:02 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-09-11 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: 12412
Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> writes:
> Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:
>
>> And from the info page above, I infer that the `clean'
>> and `distclean' targets should remove the .elc files.
>
> No, they are distributed.
What do you mean by "distributed"?
I'm using the emacs-24 bzr branch.
There is no .elc files here.
After building from that branch, I expect `make distclean'
to remove the .elc files.
I also expect `make clean' to do this, actually.
What is wrong in my expectations here?
--
Bastien
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 13:31 ` Bastien
@ 2012-09-11 13:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-09-11 16:02 ` Glenn Morris
1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2012-09-11 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Bastien; +Cc: 12412
Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:
> What do you mean by "distributed"?
$ make dist
Andreas.
--
Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5
"And now for something completely different."
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 13:31 ` Bastien
2012-09-11 13:39 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2012-09-11 16:02 ` Glenn Morris
2012-09-11 16:19 ` Bastien
1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2012-09-11 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Bastien; +Cc: 12412, Andreas Schwab
Bastien wrote:
> What do you mean by "distributed"?
Included in release tarfiles. These include several things that the VCS
does not; info files, configure script, elc files, etc. distclean must
not delete these things.
(I don't know why it is such fun to be so terse no-one can understand
you.)
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 16:02 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2012-09-11 16:19 ` Bastien
2012-09-11 16:23 ` Glenn Morris
2012-09-11 17:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-09-11 16:19 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 12412, Andreas Schwab
Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
> Bastien wrote:
>
>> What do you mean by "distributed"?
>
> Included in release tarfiles. These include several things that the VCS
> does not; info files, configure script, elc files, etc. distclean must
> not delete these things.
Okay, I do understand now.
Thanks,
> (I don't know why it is such fun to be so terse no-one can understand
> you.)
I guess this "you" is for Andreas, right? Because this is the exact
same impression I get from Andreas messages.
I tried to ask something clearly, got extremely short answers, which
gives me the impression that I'm stupid. Being stupid, I don't want to
bother anyone with more than short sentences, and you get this kinda
silly "conversation".
Anyway, thanks for the answer.
I continue to think having a ̀make help' would spare everyone's time
by answering such questions in advance.
--
Bastien
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 16:19 ` Bastien
@ 2012-09-11 16:23 ` Glenn Morris
2012-09-11 17:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2012-09-11 16:23 UTC (permalink / raw
To: 12412-done
(Yes, "You" did not mean "you, Bastien" :) )
Bastien wrote:
> I continue to think having a ̀make help' would spare everyone's time
> by answering such questions in advance.
Since there is a separate report about that I'll close this one.
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 13:06 ` Bastien
2012-09-11 13:25 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2012-09-11 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-11 17:47 ` Bastien
1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2012-09-11 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Bastien; +Cc: 12412, schwab
> From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:06:38 +0200
> Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> So what I'm looking for is `make maintainer-clean'.
No, I think you are looking for "make bootstrap".
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 16:19 ` Bastien
2012-09-11 16:23 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2012-09-11 17:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-09-11 17:45 ` Bastien
2012-09-11 18:09 ` Stefan Monnier
1 sibling, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2012-09-11 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Bastien; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, 12412
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> I guess this "you" is for Andreas, right? Because this is the exact
> same impression I get from Andreas messages.
>
> I tried to ask something clearly, got extremely short answers, which
> gives me the impression that I'm stupid. Being stupid, I don't want to
> bother anyone with more than short sentences, and you get this kinda
> silly "conversation".
You could file a wishlist bug report, "Andreas' output hard to
understand, please add --verbose option".
Juanma
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 17:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2012-09-11 17:45 ` Bastien
2012-09-11 17:46 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-09-11 18:09 ` Stefan Monnier
1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-09-11 17:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: 12412, Andreas Schwab
Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
>
>> I guess this "you" is for Andreas, right? Because this is the exact
>> same impression I get from Andreas messages.
>>
>> I tried to ask something clearly, got extremely short answers, which
>> gives me the impression that I'm stupid. Being stupid, I don't want to
>> bother anyone with more than short sentences, and you get this kinda
>> silly "conversation".
>
> You could file a wishlist bug report, "Andreas' output hard to
> understand, please add --verbose option".
:)
That said, trying to turn --verbose off is fun from time to time.
--
Bastien
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 17:45 ` Bastien
@ 2012-09-11 17:46 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2012-09-11 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Bastien; +Cc: 12412, Andreas Schwab
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> That said, trying to turn --verbose off is fun from time to time.
Yep.
Juanma
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2012-09-11 17:47 ` Bastien
2012-09-11 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-11 20:31 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-09-11 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 12412, schwab
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
>> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:06:38 +0200
>> Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org
>>
>> So what I'm looking for is `make maintainer-clean'.
>
> No, I think you are looking for "make bootstrap".
I'm really trying to get rid of the .elc files produced by
compiling Emacs from a fresh bzr update (not a distribution.)
--
Bastien
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 17:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-09-11 17:45 ` Bastien
@ 2012-09-11 18:09 ` Stefan Monnier
1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2012-09-11 18:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: Bastien, Andreas Schwab, 12412
> You could file a wishlist bug report, "Andreas' output hard to
> understand, please add --verbose option".
I think this would need to be send to Andreas's bug tracker, because it's
not specific to Emacs's use of Andreas.
BTW, I think it's an appropriate moment to mention that while I do get
occasionally frustrated with some people here (Andreas's one liners and
Drew's many liners come to mind), I really do appreciate all
your contributions.
Stefan
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 17:47 ` Bastien
@ 2012-09-11 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-11 18:34 ` Bastien
2012-09-11 20:31 ` Stefan Monnier
1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2012-09-11 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Bastien; +Cc: 12412, schwab
> From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
> Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org
> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:47:02 +0200
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
> >> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:06:38 +0200
> >> Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org
> >>
> >> So what I'm looking for is `make maintainer-clean'.
> >
> > No, I think you are looking for "make bootstrap".
>
> I'm really trying to get rid of the .elc files produced by
> compiling Emacs from a fresh bzr update (not a distribution.)
You mean, delete them, but not re-create them? Why would you need a
tree without *.elc files?
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2012-09-11 18:34 ` Bastien
0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-09-11 18:34 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 12412, schwab
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> You mean, delete them, but not re-create them? Why would you need a
> tree without *.elc files?
When editing a .el file from the bzr branch, I sometimes byte-compile
it to check compilation warnings. Since I prefer to keep the .el file
in sync with the .elc file, I delete the newly created .elc file by
hand.
So in general, I prefer to work in a directory with no .elc file.
But removing by hand is okay.
--
Bastien
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 17:47 ` Bastien
2012-09-11 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2012-09-11 20:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-11 20:38 ` Bastien
1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2012-09-11 20:31 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Bastien; +Cc: 12412, schwab
>> No, I think you are looking for "make bootstrap".
> I'm really trying to get rid of the .elc files produced by
> compiling Emacs from a fresh bzr update (not a distribution.)
I think you want "bootstrap-clean", then: bootstrap is basically "make
bootstrap-clean; make".
Stefan
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* bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files
2012-09-11 20:31 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2012-09-11 20:38 ` Bastien
0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-09-11 20:38 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 12412, schwab
Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:
>>> No, I think you are looking for "make bootstrap".
>> I'm really trying to get rid of the .elc files produced by
>> compiling Emacs from a fresh bzr update (not a distribution.)
>
> I think you want "bootstrap-clean", then: bootstrap is basically "make
> bootstrap-clean; make".
Yes, that does it, thanks!
--
Bastien
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