From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:16:46 +0300 Message-ID: <83mwtef9f5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ehf1cwc4.fsf@maru.md5i.com> <20130331220136.GA16863@saturn> <83ip44iw3b.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1365099438 5253 80.91.229.3 (4 Apr 2013 18:17:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 04 20:17:46 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UNojJ-00056w-0X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:17:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35345 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNoiu-0005Pm-2U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:17:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58333) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNoin-0005PX-5d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:17:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNoii-0002dw-6S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:17:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:51436) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNoih-0002dm-Ty for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:17:08 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MKQ00500T81Z800@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:16:08 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MKQ005MCTEWO3C0@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:16:08 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158652 Archived-At: > From: John Wiegley > Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:44:43 -0500 > > As a data point: if Emacs does decide on Git, I'll become a more active > contributor again; if it doesn't, I have other things to do. Bzr/Mercurial is > enough of a "joy-stealing" barrier that -- like now -- I would not be > interested in submitting my work upstream. And this same situation is true > for some others as well, as evidenced by voices on this mailing list. I'm very sad to hear that, because I think it is improper for contributors to put up such an ultimatum for a project. I hope that people who contribute to Emacs (and any other project) are first and foremost interested in advancing the project, and any other considerations are secondary. At least that's how I reacted when Gawk and Make switched to Git: I gnashed my teeth and adapted. I hope so will you.