From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 21:34:01 +0300 Message-ID: <83mwd7qvl2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ob4fg3zp.fsf@gmail.com> <874mzgdm3d.fsf@mithlond.arda> <87r42jd7ld.fsf@mithlond.arda> <83y4wrr822.fsf@gnu.org> <87mwd7d300.fsf@mithlond.arda> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1403289278 8833 80.91.229.3 (20 Jun 2014 18:34:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Teemu Likonen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 20 20:34:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wy3ds-0002lj-TH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 20:34:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42395 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wy3ds-0006hM-GQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:34:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50245) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wy3dl-0006hD-5R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:34:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wy3df-00053X-8v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:34:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:58813) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wy3df-00053N-0M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:34:15 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N7H00E00C3U7400@mtaout24.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 21:30:12 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N7H007I9CQCGL80@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 21:30:12 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87mwd7d300.fsf@mithlond.arda> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.180 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:172584 Archived-At: > From: Teemu Likonen > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:17:35 +0300 > > But my ultimate point is not me or Finnish. Spell-checking task depends > on so many things outside the scope of Emacs project. So many different > languages, different checker engines, missing dictionaries, missing > engines. In many situations automatically enabled flyspell-mode just > wouldn't work. I think it's a bad idea to turn on such feature by > default. Seems to me that it is up to the people who use those "other spell-checkers" to enhance ispell.el to support them. This is the first time I personally hear that many languages are left out because the spellers which support them don't provide the Ispell-like interface which Emacs expects. If there are so many of them, where are all those users? why didn't anyone submit changes to ispell.el to support those languages and spell-checkers? Why didn't you, for that matter?