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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 20466@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#20466: 25.0.50; REGRESSION in `isearch-mode-map': <backspace> is not translated to DEL
Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 21:43:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83mw1oqgtt.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv1tj02nc8.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com,  20466@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 14:03:26 -0400
> 
> >> What you're basically saying is that we should give up on the
> >> function-key-map binding which remaps `backspace' to DEL.
> > No, I'm saying it's unreliable, in the sense that a user who wants to
> > customize DEL cannot rely on Backspace continue doing what DEL does.
> 
> Exactly: you're saying "it's unreliable, so just forget about ti and
> always bind both keys".

Or don't bind either, in which case you don't need to "just forget
about it".

> And if both keys are bound in foo-map, then both keys also need to
> be bound in any other bar-map if the two ever happen to be active at
> the same time

You lost me.  What do you mean by "active at the same time"?

> so whoever follows your advice will force other people to follow it
> as well.

Good advice is like that, yes.

> The end result is that <backspace> will always be bound and the
> function-key-map binding will be useless.

Not if these keys are left at their default bindings, no.

> The purpose of the function-key-map binding is to make sure that if
> you want the same behavior for both, then you only need one binding
> (the one on DEL).

Which doesn't work if the mode binds Backspace.

> > Whatever you do, my rule will always yield more reliable results.
> 
> And will break more other cases where people have followed the path
> usually recommended (i.e. "only bind the DEL or TAB event unless you
> want to distinguish the two").

But this is exactly what the OP did, and look where it got him.





  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-01 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-30  5:19 bug#20466: 25.0.50; REGRESSION in `isearch-mode-map': <backspace> is not translated to DEL Drew Adams
2015-04-30  9:30 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-30 13:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-30 23:12   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-01  6:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-01 18:03       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-01 18:43         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-05-01 21:12           ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] <<a3b97f70-3780-421f-9a84-90a236c5e083@default>
     [not found] ` <<83383hu3dn.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-04-30 14:11   ` Drew Adams

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