* lax whitespace search
@ 2015-09-03 15:38 Richard Stallman
2015-09-03 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Richard Stallman @ 2015-09-03 15:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
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When we discussed this a few days ago, I thought I found that only SPC
did a lax search.
However, I just found that C-j was also doing a lax search.
I put this text in a Fundamental mode buffer
foo D is on the
Desk
and typed C-s C-j D. It found both Ds.
That is clearly wrong. If I wanted a lax whitespace search, I'd type
SPC.
Please fix this so that C-j searches only for itself.
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-09-03 15:38 lax whitespace search Richard Stallman
@ 2015-09-03 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-03 16:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-04 17:18 ` Richard Stallman
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2015-09-03 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rms; +Cc: emacs-devel
> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 11:38:53 -0400
>
> When we discussed this a few days ago, I thought I found that only SPC
> did a lax search.
>
> However, I just found that C-j was also doing a lax search.
> I put this text in a Fundamental mode buffer
>
> foo D is on the
> Desk
>
> and typed C-s C-j D. It found both Ds.
>
> That is clearly wrong. If I wanted a lax whitespace search, I'd type
> SPC.
>
> Please fix this so that C-j searches only for itself.
I don't see the above problem with the current master. Is your build
current? If not, it appears that the problem was already fixed.
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-09-03 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2015-09-03 16:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-03 17:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-04 17:18 ` Richard Stallman
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From: Andreas Schwab @ 2015-09-03 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: rms, emacs-devel
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> However, I just found that C-j was also doing a lax search.
>> I put this text in a Fundamental mode buffer
>>
>> foo D is on the
>> Desk
>>
>> and typed C-s C-j D. It found both Ds.
>>
>> That is clearly wrong. If I wanted a lax whitespace search, I'd type
>> SPC.
>>
>> Please fix this so that C-j searches only for itself.
>
> I don't see the above problem with the current master. Is your build
> current? If not, it appears that the problem was already fixed.
It doesn't happen in 24.5 either.
Andreas.
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-09-03 16:39 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2015-09-03 17:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2015-09-03 17:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: rms, emacs-devel
> From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>
> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 18:39:20 +0200
> Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> However, I just found that C-j was also doing a lax search.
> >> I put this text in a Fundamental mode buffer
> >>
> >> foo D is on the
> >> Desk
> >>
> >> and typed C-s C-j D. It found both Ds.
> >>
> >> That is clearly wrong. If I wanted a lax whitespace search, I'd type
> >> SPC.
> >>
> >> Please fix this so that C-j searches only for itself.
> >
> > I don't see the above problem with the current master. Is your build
> > current? If not, it appears that the problem was already fixed.
>
> It doesn't happen in 24.5 either.
I think there was a brief period of time when master behaved like
that. AFAIR, it was introduced as part of the char-fold-search
changes. But it was fixed since then.
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-09-03 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-03 16:39 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2015-09-04 17:18 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-05 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2015-09-04 17:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel
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> I don't see the above problem with the current master. Is your build
> current? If not, it appears that the problem was already fixed.
I rebuilt 3 weeks ago. If it has been fixed since then, that is good.
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-09-04 17:18 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2015-09-05 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-05 11:25 ` Artur Malabarba
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2015-09-05 7:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rms, Artur Malabarba; +Cc: emacs-devel
> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 13:18:37 -0400
>
> > I don't see the above problem with the current master. Is your build
> > current? If not, it appears that the problem was already fixed.
>
> I rebuilt 3 weeks ago. If it has been fixed since then, that is good.
Artur, can you help us here? When was this issue fixed on master?
TIA
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-09-05 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2015-09-05 11:25 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-09-06 3:01 ` Richard Stallman
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From: Artur Malabarba @ 2015-09-05 11:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: rms, emacs-devel
2015-09-05 8:21 GMT+01:00 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
>> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
>> CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 13:18:37 -0400
>>
>> > I don't see the above problem with the current master. Is your build
>> > current? If not, it appears that the problem was already fixed.
>>
>> I rebuilt 3 weeks ago. If it has been fixed since then, that is good.
>
> Artur, can you help us here? When was this issue fixed on master?
>
> TIA
Yes, this happened less than 3 weeks ago, when I disabled char-folding
by default. Technically, the char-fold + lax-whitespace issue isn't
actually fixed.
It's a commit of mine from Wed Aug 19 11:45:49 2015 +0100
Specifically:
7eed7399358faecd719febae4dc720ef2be41155
* isearch.el (isearch-search-fun-default): Revert a5bdb87
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-09-05 11:25 ` Artur Malabarba
@ 2015-09-06 3:01 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-06 9:57 ` Artur Malabarba
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From: Richard Stallman @ 2015-09-06 3:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bruce.connor.am; +Cc: eliz, emacs-devel
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
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> Yes, this happened less than 3 weeks ago, when I disabled char-folding
> by default. Technically, the char-fold + lax-whitespace issue isn't
> actually fixed.
Can you fix it?
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-09-06 3:01 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2015-09-06 9:57 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-22 5:36 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Artur Malabarba @ 2015-09-06 9:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rms; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, emacs-devel
2015-09-06 4:01 GMT+01:00 Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>:
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
> > Yes, this happened less than 3 weeks ago, when I disabled char-folding
> > by default. Technically, the char-fold + lax-whitespace issue isn't
> > actually fixed.
>
> Can you fix it?
Yes. It's not a conceptual incompatbility, it's just that isearch
doesn't offer lax-whitespacing for searches modified via tha
isearc-word variable.
Fixing it is on my list, but it will take a couple of months.
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-09-06 9:57 ` Artur Malabarba
@ 2015-12-22 5:36 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-22 13:24 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-22 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2015-12-22 5:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bruce.connor.am; +Cc: eliz, emacs-devel
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> Yes. It's not a conceptual incompatbility, it's just that isearch
> doesn't offer lax-whitespacing for searches modified via tha
> isearc-word variable.
> Fixing it is on my list, but it will take a couple of months.
1. Have you done this? Do you still plan to?
2. Would it fix the problem that isearching for LFD matches spaces?
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-12-22 5:36 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2015-12-22 13:24 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-23 5:09 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-22 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Artur Malabarba @ 2015-12-22 13:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richard Stallman; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, emacs-devel
2015-12-22 5:36 GMT+00:00 Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>:
> > Yes. It's not a conceptual incompatbility, it's just that isearch
> > doesn't offer lax-whitespacing for searches modified via tha
> > isearc-word variable.
>
> > Fixing it is on my list, but it will take a couple of months.
>
> 1. Have you done this? Do you still plan to?
I have. All types of isearch are now treated the same WRT to lax-whitespacing.
> 2. Would it fix the problem that isearching for LFD matches spaces?
Yes. It's fixed for me.
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-12-22 13:24 ` Artur Malabarba
@ 2015-12-23 5:09 ` Richard Stallman
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From: Richard Stallman @ 2015-12-23 5:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bruce.connor.am; +Cc: eliz, emacs-devel
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> > 2. Would it fix the problem that isearching for LFD matches spaces?
> Yes. It's fixed for me.
When did you make that fix?
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-12-22 5:36 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-22 13:24 ` Artur Malabarba
@ 2015-12-22 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-23 5:08 ` Richard Stallman
1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2015-12-22 16:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rms; +Cc: bruce.connor.am, emacs-devel
> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> CC: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 00:36:26 -0500
>
> 2. Would it fix the problem that isearching for LFD matches spaces?
Richard, this problem was fixed many moons ago. I wonder why you
still keep mentioning it. It makes me think that maybe I don't
understand the problem you are talking about. Could you describe a
recipe for reproducing it, and if you can reproduce it in your current
Emacs, say when you updated the sources from the repository?
Thanks.
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-12-22 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2015-12-23 5:08 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-23 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2015-12-23 5:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: bruce.connor.am, emacs-devel
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
With the following text in Rmail or in a Mail buffer,
> Richard, this problem was fixed many moons ago. I wonder why you
> still keep mentioning it. It makes me think that maybe I don't
> understand the problem you are talking about. Could you describe a
> recipe for reproducing it, and if you can reproduce it in your current
> Emacs, say when you updated the sources from the repository?
with point at the start of it, I type C-s LFD LFD and it matches the spaces
after "ago.".
I fetchd the sources on Nov 14.
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-12-23 5:08 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2015-12-23 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-24 5:43 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2015-12-23 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rms; +Cc: bruce.connor.am, emacs-devel
> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> CC: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 00:08:05 -0500
>
> With the following text in Rmail or in a Mail buffer,
>
> > Richard, this problem was fixed many moons ago. I wonder why you
> > still keep mentioning it. It makes me think that maybe I don't
> > understand the problem you are talking about. Could you describe a
> > recipe for reproducing it, and if you can reproduce it in your current
> > Emacs, say when you updated the sources from the repository?
>
> with point at the start of it, I type C-s LFD LFD and it matches the spaces
> after "ago.".
I don't have that problem, neither on master nor on the emacs-25
branch.
> I fetchd the sources on Nov 14.
From master or from emacs-25? I tried an emacs-25 branch build I had
from Nov 16, and there was no such problem there, either.
Could it be that you have some stale Lisp files somewhere? Does
list-load-path-shadows tell anything of significance?
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-12-23 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2015-12-24 5:43 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-24 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2015-12-24 5:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: bruce.connor.am, emacs-devel
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> > I fetchd the sources on Nov 14.
> From master or from emacs-25?
From master.
I just tested it in emacs -Q; the failure is the same.
It fails in Fundamental mode, too.
list-load-path-shadows says there are none.
A few Lisp files are edited, but none that would affect Fundamental mode.
No .elc files are stale -- they were all recompiled on Nov 14 by the
build process.
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Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-12-24 5:43 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2015-12-24 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-24 23:58 ` Artur Malabarba
0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2015-12-24 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rms; +Cc: bruce.connor.am, emacs-devel
> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> CC: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 00:43:44 -0500
>
> > > I fetchd the sources on Nov 14.
>
> > From master or from emacs-25?
>
> From master.
>
> I just tested it in emacs -Q; the failure is the same.
> It fails in Fundamental mode, too.
>
> list-load-path-shadows says there are none.
>
> A few Lisp files are edited, but none that would affect Fundamental mode.
>
> No .elc files are stale -- they were all recompiled on Nov 14 by the
> build process.
Very strange.
Artur, any ideas what could cause this?
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-12-24 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2015-12-24 23:58 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-26 6:14 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Artur Malabarba @ 2015-12-24 23:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Richard Stallman, emacs-devel
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On 24 Dec 2015 2:14 pm, "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> >
> > A few Lisp files are edited, but none that would affect Fundamental
mode.
> >
> > No .elc files are stale -- they were all recompiled on Nov 14 by the
> > build process.
>
> Very strange.
>
> Artur, any ideas what could cause this?
The only thing I can think of is that maybe this was briefly broken right
around the time Richard last fetched the sources.
Richard, could you try pulling the latest emacs-25 again?
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* Re: lax whitespace search
2015-12-24 23:58 ` Artur Malabarba
@ 2015-12-26 6:14 ` Richard Stallman
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From: Richard Stallman @ 2015-12-26 6:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bruce.connor.am; +Cc: eliz, emacs-devel
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> Richard, could you try pulling the latest emacs-25 again?
I did that today, and the problem seems to have been fixed.
That is a relief.
By the way, it turns out that none of the files in my build from Nov
14 were edited locally. There were backup files, but they resulted
from changes I committed in August.
--
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