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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Proposed new core library: alert.el
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 17:52:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83mvurqg5m.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bnb716um.fsf@lifelogs.com>

> From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 10:32:33 -0500
> 
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 12:04:48 +0200 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: 
> 
> EZ> I think it would make sense to provide an intermediate
> EZ> platform-independent layer for displaying alerts
> 
> Yes, this is simply a `message' call.

If 'message' could be told to display notifications, yes.  But what
you say is just the design; someone should write the code to implement
it.

> I think the only thing missing is metadata and I would draw
> inspiration from syslog: level, facility, and tags. Then the
> *handler* should decide what to do with the message based on the
> metadata.

Who sets up the handler in that scenario?

> I'm not sure how to provide the metadata, and it should be ignored by
> the default (current) message handler.  Maybe it could be string
> properties applied to the first parameter?  I *need* to know this before
> writing code.

What should be in the metadata?

> So before I jump to implementation, this is the design I'm considering:
> 
> 1) make a new `message-handler' buffer-local variable, default to nil, customizable
> 1.1) maybe buffer local is not necessary?  I'm not sure what's best.
> 
> 2) users and packages can override `message-handler' as needed:
>     (setq message-handler 'alert-message-handler)
> 
> 3) in the C code, `editfns.c:Fmessage' will check for `message-handler'
> and if it exists, simply call it with all the parameters and exit
> 
> 4) the handlers do not have to preserve the `message' specific behavior,
> as shown in its docstring, e.g. printing to STDERR in batch mode or
> clearing an existing message when passed nil.
> 
> Once that piece is done, alert.el can be adjusted as needed; the
> metadata passing is the major piece missing.  Sounds good?

That's just the infrastructure, AFAICT.  The other part, i.e., what
you describe in 2) above, still needs to be written, for this to be
ready to use.  Right?



  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-06 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-05  2:05 Proposed new core library: alert.el John Wiegley
2015-11-05  9:14 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05  9:21 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-05 11:39   ` Sven Axelsson
2015-11-05 16:09     ` Random832
2015-11-05 16:24 ` raman
2015-11-05 16:33 ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2015-11-05 17:09   ` joakim
2015-11-05 17:09   ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-05 18:21   ` John Wiegley
2015-11-06 22:31     ` T.V Raman
2015-11-06 21:38   ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-07 13:20     ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-07 13:39       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05 19:48 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-05 20:03   ` John Wiegley
2015-11-05 20:23     ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-05 20:33       ` John Wiegley
2015-11-05 22:24         ` Bozhidar Batsov
2015-11-06 10:04         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-06 15:32           ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-06 15:52             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-11-06 16:01               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-06 16:20               ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-06 17:56                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-06 18:10                   ` message-function (was: Proposed new core library: alert.el) Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-06 19:03                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-07 13:31                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-07 13:39                         ` message-function Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-06 21:20                 ` Proposed new core library: alert.el John Wiegley
2015-11-07 13:26                   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-07 10:40             ` Elias Mårtenson
     [not found]             ` <m2io5e6d39.fsf@newartisans.com>
2015-11-07 12:28               ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-07 13:09                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-07 13:44                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-08 20:49                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-09  0:03                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-09 21:50                 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 18:34                   ` Posting new feature proposals on the wiki? (was: Re: Proposed new core library: alert.el) Nicolas Petton
2015-11-10 18:40                     ` Posting new feature proposals on the wiki? John Wiegley
2015-11-11 16:14                     ` raman
2015-11-11 16:43                       ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 17:35                         ` T.V Raman
2015-11-11 23:27                           ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-11 23:40                             ` T.V Raman
2015-11-12 11:16                               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-12 16:40                                 ` T.V Raman
2015-11-12 22:34                               ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-16 16:52                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-16 17:03                                   ` raman
2015-11-06 15:50           ` Proposed new core library: alert.el John Wiegley
2015-11-06  1:47     ` raman
2015-11-06  2:16       ` John Wiegley
2015-11-06  9:47         ` Rasmus
2015-11-06 10:42           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-06 11:27             ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-11-06  9:50         ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-06 10:07           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-06 13:59             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-06 16:12         ` raman
2015-11-06 16:13           ` John Wiegley
2015-11-06 17:22             ` T.V Raman

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