From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 18:35:28 +0200 Message-ID: <83mvqsln3j.fsf@gnu.org> References: <7fbb8bc7-9a97-4bad-a103-a6690a35241d@default> <834mdc5w6o.fsf@gnu.org> <838u2hu6aq.fsf@gnu.org> <871t899tde.fsf@gnus.org> <83y4ahru04.fsf@gnu.org> <83fuwproyf.fsf@gnu.org> <837fi0sz29.fsf@gnu.org> <83egc8qzjh.fsf@gnu.org> <87egc7evu3.fsf@gnus.org> <83io1jpt4u.fsf@gnu.org> <87povqhj25.fsf@gnus.org> <83povqm3dw.fsf@gnu.org> <83io1im0zq.fsf@gnu.org> <85si0kenvi.fsf@iznogoud.viz> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456159495 12912 80.91.229.3 (22 Feb 2016 16:44:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:44:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, lokedhs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Wolfgang Jenkner Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 22 17:44:54 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aXtbQ-0002QO-T3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 17:44:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50154 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXtbQ-0000Zm-7M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 11:44:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57682) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXtSX-0001yp-DW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 11:35:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXtST-00057J-J3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 11:35:41 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39390) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXtST-00057F-FQ; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 11:35:37 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1265 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aXtSS-0007xJ-Is; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 11:35:37 -0500 In-reply-to: <85si0kenvi.fsf@iznogoud.viz> (message from Wolfgang Jenkner on Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:58:36 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200462 Archived-At: > From: Wolfgang Jenkner > Cc: Elias Mårtenson , larsi@gnus.org, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:58:36 +0100 > > > I don't think this is correct. I think ö is a letter on its own in > > any language that uses it. Which is why I don't see how it is > > different from ø. > > In German dictionary collation order there's only a secondary difference > between o and ö [1] > > &O<<ö<<<Ö Yes, I know. But that doesn't mean ö is not a letter on its own. IOW, collation order says nothing about letter differences, IMO.