From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23426: 25.0.93; dired-do-find-regexp doesn't find newline Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 19:13:17 +0300 Message-ID: <83mvo5iyxu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <<57278BA0.6010604@h-rommerskirchen.de> <4xr3dj7yrk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <9638d58e-0c5c-a587-c3a6-272254597b88@yandex.ru> <85ff912d-1457-487d-80b2-412389876172@default> <812a118d-331e-4f09-aeda-483ee71b1127@default> <<838tzpkgtj.fsf@gnu.org> <0ef7b74a-ba45-46a0-a46a-81bb6ae450a6@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462378486 22956 80.91.229.3 (4 May 2016 16:14:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 16:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23426@debbugs.gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 04 18:14:32 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1axzRW-0000Ct-M1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:14:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48844 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axzRS-0003VD-Ps for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:14:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33374) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axzRJ-0003Gb-3D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:14:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axzR7-00078b-Em for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:14:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53888) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axzR7-00077g-CN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:14:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axzR4-0000fH-1b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:14:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 16:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23426 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23426-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23426.14623784112511 (code B ref 23426); Wed, 04 May 2016 16:14:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23426) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 16:13:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37992 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axzQZ-0000eR-4n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:13:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42272) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axzQY-0000eF-4V for 23426@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:13:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axzQJ-0006wY-4s for 23426@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:13:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51154) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axzQJ-0006vV-2o; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:13:15 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2243 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1axzQC-00048k-T1; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:13:09 -0400 In-reply-to: <0ef7b74a-ba45-46a0-a46a-81bb6ae450a6@default> (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 4 May 2016 09:04:39 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117761 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 09:04:39 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 23426@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > It's the new feature that should perhaps not have a key. At > > > least it should not grab an existing key. There are plenty of > > > unbound keys in Dired. And why not just provide the command, > > > for now, and let users bind it themselves if they like? > > > > Because we want to provide a coherent, consistent interface to the > > users. Since M-. has changes to the xref UI, > > Same issue there. Why replace that key binding? Why not provide > your new feature separately? Because that's not how Emacs development moves forward. And because we don't have enough resources for that. > > > When will Eli stop personalizing everything? > > > > There's no need to blame Eli for this, that's for sure. > > I don't blame him (or anyone in particular) for the feature. > I mentioned Eli by name because he mentioned me by name, and > he attributed false motives to me. My complaint was about his > personalizing things, not about his support of this feature. Why would I (or anyone else, for that matter) work on Emacs for so many years, if doing that wasn't deeply personal for us?