From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 05:42:43 +0300 Message-ID: <83mvlqfc2k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87twg2g86g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83eg76n5h5.fsf@gnu.org> <87y45eeoor.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8337nmn2pd.fsf@gnu.org> <87shvmem2c.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87oa6adz3w.fsf@lifelogs.com> <577E056B.1060705@cs.ucla.edu> <871t35egck.fsf@lifelogs.com> <577E6697.8090603@cs.ucla.edu> <87furle9tc.fsf@wanadoo.es> <8737nkdy8a.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83h9c0i4wa.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1ccgo6.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83bn28i23s.fsf@gnu.org> <83ziprgutm.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468118618 22862 80.91.229.3 (10 Jul 2016 02:43:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 02:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 10 04:43:34 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bM4iT-0006VR-EJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 04:43:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53139 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bM4iS-0000l8-H3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 22:43:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57691) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bM4hr-0000kz-Si for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 22:42:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bM4hm-00048d-Id for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 22:42:54 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49823) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bM4hm-00048Z-FD; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 22:42:50 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2503 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bM4hl-0004IV-Fl; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 22:42:49 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 10 Jul 2016 02:04:55 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205482 Archived-At: > Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 02:04:55 +0300 > > > In any case, the startup times of 'annotate' and 'log -L' are > > comparable, and both are non-negligible. > > Sure, but grepping through all NEWS or ChangeLog files doesn't happen > instantly either. Its startup time is virtually zero, and then it's just browsing through results, like with the other methods. A failure to find anything is very fast, unlike with the other methods.