From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15539: comment Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2016 09:28:50 +0200 Message-ID: <83mvhfln4d.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wqlqiayq.fsf@carifio.org> <9c71f3ab-6322-c7fd-b98d-28f27d6c51f1@campus.tu-berlin.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478244574 25132 195.159.176.226 (4 Nov 2016 07:29:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 07:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15539@debbugs.gnu.org To: Max Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 04 08:29:30 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c2Yw5-0003xF-O9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 08:29:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36860 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c2Yw8-00066d-Jn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 03:29:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37922) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c2Yvz-00065D-Pz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 03:29:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c2Yvu-0006bl-TQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 03:29:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:55667) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c2Yvu-0006bd-Q6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 03:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c2Yvu-0007Yy-Fs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 03:29:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2016 07:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15539 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix patch Original-Received: via spool by 15539-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15539.147824452129045 (code B ref 15539); Fri, 04 Nov 2016 07:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15539) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2016 07:28:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42833 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c2YvZ-0007YP-5B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 03:28:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46859) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c2YvX-0007YC-Ki for 15539@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 03:28:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c2YvN-0006F8-BR for 15539@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 03:28:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46093) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c2YvN-0006F0-7h; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 03:28:29 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1970 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1c2YvM-00081K-8N; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 03:28:28 -0400 In-reply-to: <9c71f3ab-6322-c7fd-b98d-28f27d6c51f1@campus.tu-berlin.de> (message from Max on Thu, 3 Nov 2016 23:32:01 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:125321 Archived-At: > From: Max > Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 23:32:01 +0100 > > As an Emacs user I would like to kindly request you to reconsider this bug. > > I think that the added complexity (look at the patch size, and even that is more > comments than code) is more than justified by the convenience it adds. The "complexity" mentioned in the discussion of this bug did not allude to the size or complexity of the patch, it alluded to the complexity this would add to Emacs and its development/maintenance: where previously user-emacs-directory and the directory pointed to by HOME in the environment were one and the same, now they will not be. I think if we want to revisit this issue, we should come up with the use cases where this feature would be useful, and see if they are important enough to justify the price. AFAIR, no use cases were provided with the original request. Thanks.