From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Building Emacs on WSL Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 10:02:52 +0200 Message-ID: <83mvfv6l03.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4829e397-ac70-ab22-9c01-848ae876db46@alice.it> <834m2399iw.fsf@gnu.org> <38da4455-6544-75af-7db1-922c9b2a8257@cs.ucla.edu> <83zijv7ff6.fsf@gnu.org> <67607fa7-0e19-a371-4df4-f37af436213e@alice.it> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1481961823 7724 195.159.176.226 (17 Dec 2016 08:03:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 08:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Angelo Graziosi Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 17 09:03:38 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cI9xy-0001B4-Gr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 09:03:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35639 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cI9y2-0004dt-MY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 03:03:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47851) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cI9xv-0004XV-OU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 03:03:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cI9xr-0005rJ-SB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 03:03:35 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42123) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cI9xr-0005rF-Od; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 03:03:31 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3363 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cI9xq-0004wE-PE; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 03:03:31 -0500 In-reply-to: <67607fa7-0e19-a371-4df4-f37af436213e@alice.it> (message from Angelo Graziosi on Sat, 17 Dec 2016 02:00:31 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210575 Archived-At: > From: Angelo Graziosi > Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 02:00:31 +0100 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > We don't know yet what caused this problem. And I don't think future > > developments should prevent users from reporting bugs. We can, of > > course, decide not to fix this or that bug, but I don't think we > > should tell users we don't want to hear about them. > > > > I understand this is a low priority issue if it is... Remember that WSL > is marked as "beta". I flagged this only for the record, just in case > someone had a similar experience. IME, it is unwise to assign priority to a problem one doesn't have a sufficient understanding of. With just a few more details, as would be revealed by the backtrace from the hang, we could have a much better idea. That is why I asked for that. I myself have no access to such a system, nor sufficient time to install it and try that. (A good example of inadvertently ignoring huge problems until they are pretty much upon us is the ralloc.c incident: I'm sure we had quite a few bug reports related to that from users who switched to "bleeding-edge" GNU/Linux systems, but we effectively ignored them as not reproducible because the crucial evidence that ralloc.c is being compiled in was never presented. If we had known this soon enough, we could have prevented the problems people had with Emacs 25.1.) > BTW, in my builds of emacs-25 branch I notice a more serious issue. > After "M-x package-list-packages", in the Packages buffer I cannot type > anything. If I do, I get, embedded in that buffer, > > [1]+ Stopped > > and the Bash prompt, as if I had typed C-z, and 'fg' seems partially > resurrect Emacs, but it is unusable. I have to close WSL window. In > short I cannot install packages from MELPA/ELPA with these builds. > > This issue is absent if I install (in WSL) the Ubuntu package > emacs24-nox with apt-get... Please always report such problems as bugs, using report-emacs-bug. Thanks.