From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23709: 24.5; inhibit-eol-conversion breaks archive-7z-summarize Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 19:10:16 +0300 Message-ID: <83mvbuomxj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9zpeg8a0yxz.fsf@PEROMSIK0D.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <6zo9wcc4sg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83tw63oac8.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1491408682 12626 195.159.176.226 (5 Apr 2017 16:11:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 16:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: peromsik@ptc.com, 23709@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 05 18:11:17 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cvnWZ-00024W-BK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2017 18:11:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41385 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cvnWd-0001Vs-FO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2017 12:11:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53365) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cvnWT-0001Vk-Lv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2017 12:11:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cvnWQ-000148-Ey for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2017 12:11:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:35652) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cvnWQ-00013x-Bl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2017 12:11:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cvnWQ-0002fx-6C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2017 12:11:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 16:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23709 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23709-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23709.149140862610241 (code B ref 23709); Wed, 05 Apr 2017 16:11:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23709) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Apr 2017 16:10:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33851 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cvnVp-0002f6-M7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2017 12:10:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34002) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cvnVo-0002eu-6s for 23709@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2017 12:10:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cvnVf-0000AE-Vg for 23709@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2017 12:10:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35378) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cvnVf-0000A8-S3; Wed, 05 Apr 2017 12:10:15 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2117 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cvnVe-0003bD-U5; Wed, 05 Apr 2017 12:10:15 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Glenn Morris on Wed, 05 Apr 2017 11:56:20 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:131290 Archived-At: > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: peromsik@ptc.com, 23709@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 11:56:20 -0400 > > > If there are good reasons for setting this variable globally, let's > > hear them. I'm not aware of any use patterns which would require > > that. > > It's a customizable user option. It seems perfectly valid to me to set > it globally, for the reasons given in the manual: > > some people prefer this to the more subtle '(DOS)' end-of-line type > indication near the left edge of the mode line > > I've had it set in my own .emacs for years, as it happens. Doesn't sound like good reasons to me, sorry. I'm guessing this variable was made a defcustom under pressure from people who didn't want to see "(DOS)". Me, I just modified the indicator to be just a single backslash. You are shooting yourself in the foot if you set this globally. Of course, Emacs users should be free to do that, as part of their freedom, but we don't need to bother "fixing" such use cases by binding the variable in every place where its being non-nil could break standard features.