From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: unpleasant flickering in terminal emacs
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 09:27:48 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83muxnu9p7.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <864ljw5qri.fsf@zoho.com> (message from Emanuel Berg on Fri, 27 Apr 2018 22:38:25 +0200)
> From: Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 22:38:25 +0200
>
> Is there an Emacs FAQ? (Of course there is.
> Somewhere in Emacs!) The first question should
> be,
>
> Q: I have a problem when I [insert the rest
> of your question here]
>
> A: run Emacs like this
>
> $ emacs -Q
>
> does the problem remain?
People who discover something important frequently want that to be the
first issue described in <THE DOCUMENT OF YOUR CHOICE>. Of course,
there's only one such issue that can ever be the first one in any
document...
Emacs does have a FAQ (two of them, actually), but our documentation
principles are that such fundamental issues should be in the manual,
not in the FAQ.
The Emacs manual has a chapter on reporting bugs, which begins with
explaining how to establish there's a bug and how to search the list
of known problems. Then it describes how to report a bug, and as part
of that tells about "emacs -Q".
> The only exception to the rule "isolating the
> problem isn't difficult" that I have
> encountered is with Gnus. Because leave out the
> configuration, and you can't get to your
> e-mail, or to any newsgroups, so you can't
> reproduce the error w/o the Gnus your
> init files!
The "start with 'emacs -Q'" rule doesn't mean you cannot load
additional packages, set variables to non-default values, etc. The
idea is to present a full recipe starting from 'emacs -Q', so that
others could reproduce that without knowing anything about the Emacs
setup on the OP's system.
> Perhaps one should do like the LaTeX people
> with their hangup on "minimal working
> examples", namely, write a "minimal Gnus init
> file" that does that and only that, namely
> connects to ONE mailbox, and a single NNTP
> newsgroup, and one Gmane/NNTP ditto, and why
> not the .test ones while at it?
Exactly. Except that if the problem doesn't need a Gnus init file at
all, you don't even need such a minimal file as part of the recipe.
You can just show which variables should be set to what values,
manually.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-28 6:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-27 11:58 unpleasant flickering in terminal emacs Amos Bird
2018-04-27 12:04 ` Tim Visher
2018-04-27 12:23 ` Amos Bird
2018-04-27 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-27 12:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-27 15:05 ` Amos Bird
2018-04-27 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-27 16:45 ` Amos Bird
2018-04-27 18:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-28 3:36 ` Amos Bird
2018-04-28 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.13046.1524853658.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-04-27 20:38 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-04-28 6:27 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
[not found] ` <mailman.13064.1524896893.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-04-28 11:05 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] <mailman.13019.1524830349.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-04-27 15:14 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-04-27 16:47 ` Amos Bird
[not found] ` <mailman.13042.1524847634.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-04-27 16:58 ` Emanuel Berg
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