From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31807: 27.0; `info-apropos' bad name or bad matching Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 10:44:10 +0300 Message-ID: <83muvtuab9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <<78156de2-86c8-4593-92b5-59edf7a8996e@default> <08a478b6-1819-4bef-8165-2fb2c2e162eb@default>> <> <<83muvx33ab.fsf@gnu.org>> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1529221385 5755 195.159.176.226 (17 Jun 2018 07:43:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 07:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 31807@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 17 09:43:01 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUSKy-0001JE-IH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 09:43:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54227 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUSN5-0000Du-QM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 03:45:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42956) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUSMz-0000Dc-D3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 03:45:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUSMw-0002MF-BU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 03:45:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:44633) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUSMw-0002MA-7C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 03:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUSMv-0005ZO-US for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 03:45:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 07:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31807 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 31807-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31807.152922146521347 (code B ref 31807); Sun, 17 Jun 2018 07:45:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31807) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jun 2018 07:44:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52530 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUSMK-0005YF-Mc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 03:44:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51864) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUSMI-0005Y2-QH for 31807@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 03:44:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUSMA-00024K-I4 for 31807@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 03:44:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46807) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUSMA-00024G-Dc; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 03:44:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1249 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fUSM9-0000pD-Sj; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 03:44:14 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 14 Jun 2018 07:16:12 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:147565 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 07:16:12 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 31807@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > This is the scary text I saw, FWIW:... > > > > What's so scary about it? It clearly identifies the problematic > > characters, offers clickable buttons to go to each of them, and > > explains the problem. It should probably suggest UTF-8 as the first > > alternative, but other than that I see no problem in this dialog. > > Yes, at the very least, it should suggest utf-8 and provide > that as the default value. Only in a separate paragraph > should it say that you can instead use any of the following > instead... > > Make it simple to understand that utf-8 solves the problem, > and make it simple to choose utf-8. Done on the master branch. > You might even want to make it a 3-way decision: (1) Yes, convert to > utf-8, (2) No, don't save, (3) Convert to an alternative encoding. Option (2) is already available: just type C-g. And the other 2 is what this dialog is about. With this change, UTF-8 is offered as the default, if it can encode the text, and all the other encodings are shown in a list from which the user can select another one.