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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Invoking a function from a list of functions
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 20:57:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83muptdo7l.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP_d_8Ua2TK7DaHUPe0SF8jd_1rKdqQRbEt7OM5HhsfPsjFiLg@mail.gmail.com> (message from Yuri Khan on Thu, 29 Nov 2018 01:15:41 +0700)

> From: Yuri Khan <yurivkhan@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 01:15:41 +0700
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> 
> > That's debatable: the Unicode Standard says to act according to
> > canonical equivalence only in text, whereas the above are symbol
> > names.  We do display them the same (if the font supports that), but
> > we aren't under any obligation to map them to the same symbols, IMO.
> 
> Standard Annex 31 deals with identifiers in programming languages, and
> recommends considering identifiers equivalent if they are the same
> under Normalization Form C for case-sensitive languages (such as
> Python and Elisp).

  "Implementations that take normalization and case into account have
  two choices: to treat variants as equivalent, or to disallow
  variants."

So there's a choice.

> (It suggests using Normalization Form KC for case-insensitive
> languages, although I do not see how compatibility decomposition is
> similar to case folding.)

Case-folding is considered a special case of character folding.

> > > ELISP>  (list Α A)
> > > ("hi" "there")
> >
> > Why bad?  Those characters are not canonically equivalent.
> 
> They are not even compatibility equivalent.

I didn't say they were.

> > If you
> > want to go by compatibility equivalence, you will enter a slippery
> > slope, where, for example, Ⅰ and 1 will yield the same symbol or even
> > the same number.
> 
> No they won’t. Compatibility decomposition of U+2160 ROMAN NUMERAL ONE
> is U+0073 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I.

Yes, a mistaken example, sorry.  But the idea is clear, I hope.  E.g.,
the compatibility decomposition of ⁵ is 5, and the compatibility
decomposition of ⑴, a single character, is (1), which is a list in
Emacs.

That way lies madness, IMO.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-28 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.3677.1541718983.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-12  5:39 ` Invoking a function from a list of functions Rusi
2018-11-12 15:19   ` [OFFTOPIC] " Stefan Monnier
     [not found]   ` <mailman.3921.1542036006.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-16  2:48     ` Rusi
2018-11-16 16:40       ` James K. Lowden
2018-11-17 15:59         ` Rusi
2018-11-19 22:23           ` James K. Lowden
2018-11-19 23:11             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-20  6:15               ` Amin Bandali
2018-11-21 15:05                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-23  3:41                   ` Amin Bandali
     [not found]               ` <mailman.4291.1542694542.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-28 14:14                 ` Rusi
2018-12-11 18:48                   ` Amin Bandali
     [not found]             ` <mailman.4280.1542669123.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-28 14:10               ` Rusi
2018-11-28 16:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-28 18:15                   ` Yuri Khan
2018-11-28 18:57                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-11-28 19:08                       ` Yuri Khan
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.4820.1543432126.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-29  5:37                         ` Rusi
2018-11-16 16:40       ` James K. Lowden
2018-11-16 17:15         ` Drew Adams

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