From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36539: elec-pair.elc gets surreptitiously loaded (almost) unconditionally at start up. Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2019 22:17:46 +0300 Message-ID: <83muhp7ixx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20190707141414.GA5641@ACM> <87wogt3hqr.fsf@gmail.com> <20190707182941.GA4053@ACM> <87tvbx3cmg.fsf@gmail.com> <20190707191052.GB4053@ACM> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="86527"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: npostavs@gmail.com, 36539@debbugs.gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 07 21:19:14 2019 Return-path: <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>) id 1hkCgs-000MMO-HQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Jul 2019 21:19:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36656 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>) id 1hkCgq-00032Q-Sx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sun, 07 Jul 2019 19:19:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36539) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2019 19:18:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57417 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1hkCfj-00056E-8T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jul 2019 15:18:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34218) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@gnu.org>) id 1hkCfi-00055j-34 for 36539@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jul 2019 15:18:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44324) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@gnu.org>) id 1hkCfc-0003xN-En; Sun, 07 Jul 2019 15:17:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1882 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@gnu.org>) id 1hkCfY-0000Te-SR; Sun, 07 Jul 2019 15:17:54 -0400 In-reply-to: <20190707191052.GB4053@ACM> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Sun, 7 Jul 2019 19:10:52 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:162299 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs/162299> > Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 19:10:52 +0000 > From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> > Cc: 36539@debbugs.gnu.org > > That was my problem. I didn't know about > help-enable-completion-auto-load (which says it was new in 26.3). I > think I will disable this in my .emacs - it seems it will cause me more > problems than it will help. I've always used C-h f and C-h v to see an > Elisp file's autoloads. Thanks for the tip!. This option allows you to _disable_ auto-loading as side effect of Help commands. Emacs 26.1 and 26.2 also auto-load them, but don't let you disable that. So whatever you were used to do with C-h f was already working against you since Emacs 26.1; 26.3 lets you control that.