From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38737: 26.3; Doc string of `files--message' Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2019 16:51:33 +0200 Message-ID: <83mubgv4p6.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="111823"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 38737-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 25 15:52:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ik81C-000St8-Ok for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 15:52:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47002 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ik81B-0003jt-MX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 09:52:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48201) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ik815-0003iS-H3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 09:52:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ik814-0001AG-Kt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 09:52:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47455) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ik814-0001AB-Ha for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 09:52:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ik814-0001M5-Gw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 09:52:02 -0500 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2019 14:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 38737 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Mail-Followup-To: 38737@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Original-Received: via spool by 38737-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D38737.15772855125184 (code D ref 38737); Wed, 25 Dec 2019 14:52:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38737-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2019 14:51:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53427 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ik80u-0001LY-6V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 09:51:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39109) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ik80s-0001LL-0o for 38737-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 09:51:50 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60056) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ik80m-00016Y-Li; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 09:51:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1972 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ik80l-0003Gu-Bk; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 09:51:44 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Tue, 24 Dec 2019 13:42:34 -0800 (PST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:173748 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2019 13:42:34 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > > `message' does not "print to" the minibuffer or "display on" the > minibuffer. It shows a message in the echo area. Thanks, I fixed the wording. > Plus, it's not true that it sometimes does not show the message. What > really happens is that the message is sometimes shown and then > immediately cleared - it is still logged in `*Messages*', for example. "Don't show" doesn't imply "do nothing", so I see no problem here. > The doc string should just say that if `save-silently' is non-nil then, > after showing the message in the echo area, it is cleared. That's a description of the implementation, so not useful: the source is always available. From the user POV I think the message is not shown, because redisplay doesn't have an opportunity to kick in.