From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46552: 27.1; image-mode should not move current point Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 19:53:18 +0200 Message-ID: <83mtw399wx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86v9astljs.fsf@gmail.com> <87blckxk8t.fsf@gnus.org> <83y2fo7z39.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2foufsb.fsf@gnus.org> <83tuqc7xlq.fsf@gnu.org> <87im6suegy.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn0z9ajk.fsf@gnu.org> <875z2rvrjf.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20854"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 46552@debbugs.gnu.org, ynyaaa@gmail.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 16 18:54:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lC4Y9-0005GU-5F for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 18:54:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47560 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lC4Y8-0004S5-3V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:54:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52472) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lC4Xz-0004Rd-Ph for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:54:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:58179) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lC4Xy-0003NR-6f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:54:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lC4Xy-00083i-67 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:54:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46552 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 46552-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46552.161349800330933 (code B ref 46552); Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:54:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46552) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2021 17:53:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41492 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lC4XK-00082r-OL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:53:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34434) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lC4XJ-00082e-CA for 46552@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:53:21 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57016) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lC4XB-0003K4-G6; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:53:15 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2962 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lC4XA-0002h8-FA; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:53:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: <875z2rvrjf.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 16 Feb 2021 18:41:40 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:200149 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: ynyaaa@gmail.com, 46552@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 18:41:40 +0100 > > > IOW, from the user's POV, the image is a single "cell" on display, so > > any forward movement of point ends up _after_ the image, where the > > commands like '+' aren't supposed to work. > > I think that sounds quite surprising. There's nothing much to do in an > image-mode buffer than interact with the image, and this makes > interaction not work. But so does "C-c C-c". "If it hurts, don't do that." More importantly, I think disabling the point adjustments will cause very surprising behavior: it allows moving point many times (as many as there are bytes in the image file) without any visible effect. That's something we want very much to avoid, and it is the main reason why we have this point-adjustment feature. Disabling it is a debugging tool, not something to show to users.