From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Keybinding styles Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 18:36:24 +0300 Message-ID: <83mtodc0lj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87lf4dnk0z.fsf@gmail.com> <87wnnr2rgn.fsf@gmail.com> <83k0jql32w.fsf@gnu.org> <87tuim2bys.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31499"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, john@yates-sheets.org To: =?utf-8?Q?Andr=C3=A9?= A. Gomes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 15 17:37:38 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mQWyg-0007zs-79 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 17:37:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52776 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQWyf-0000R8-4x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:37:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45384) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQWxi-00080C-1v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:36:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40032) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQWxh-0008WV-00; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:36:37 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4865 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQWxY-0003Sl-Q2; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:36:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87tuim2bys.fsf@gmail.com> (message from =?utf-8?Q?Andr=C3=A9?= A. Gomes on Wed, 15 Sep 2021 16:40:59 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274744 Archived-At: > From: André A. Gomes > Cc: John Yates , theophilusx@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 16:40:59 +0300 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > [...] So all that's needed is to add a feature to info.el to display a > > different set of keys given some state variable. > > > > Of course, the printed manual will still show only the standard key > > bindings, and so will the HTML-formatted manual we put on the Web > > site. > > I agree that the printed and HTML-formatted manual must be "standard". > The suggestion of using a state variable also makes sense. > > But I brought the subject from another perspective. When a user runs > (info-emacs-manual), shouldn't it reflect Emacs' state? Concretely, if > I rebind C-x C-f to something else, the manual should tell me. It seems > to me like a missed opportunity. > > In fact, there's work done in a similar vein. When users read the > tutorial, they're warned them about rebounded keys. To my mind, the > same should happen with the manual. Isn't that what I said above?