From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Entering emojis Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 16:30:15 +0300 Message-ID: <83mtmsq7q1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87cznths5j.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilxi7531.fsf@gnus.org> <875yth7bjr.fsf@gnus.org> <871r4576ey.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnlx5rd4.fsf@gnus.org> <837ddxtimp.fsf@gnu.org> <87h7d15mvi.fsf@gnus.org> <831r45tgu3.fsf@gnu.org> <87cznp5k6p.fsf@gnus.org> <83tuh1rvjt.fsf@gnu.org> <87czno3jmp.fsf@gnus.org> <83bl38s7t5.fsf@gnu.org> <871r440zj1.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2951"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 29 15:32:49 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mgS00-0000ad-VQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2021 15:32:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48676 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mgRzz-0002Vk-Hw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2021 09:32:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57932) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mgRy0-0000uX-KZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2021 09:30:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35264) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mgRy0-0000HO-A5; Fri, 29 Oct 2021 09:30:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ChiZ2JcXDpGKfvvMsDFIxRCCBbgvWuKYXk/fMrTwV2o=; b=AqQVXYR0AnrP SDg+RfSkspm5IhlVGtrWynbb0DZuHPBrNNBoyz9WsO3a6KcHshlV6JVnNPySTfb+Zq0sotI+Fh+Ql iQ1YxS2LYSIF33gpaQvIgN0WgEBWfWUfKiOsXKriYJ4t218jFlT7OFQUFKhj2bDIowf1NHP6enMGM s8Yu6iiLqPy0idcRBosqa/NBArp2hi4tq3Mv/0Ea0/vlBdJdpIVQK8nBDrG8HpTH9dyp8rDOSQV+x LC+BG7ALhCGZpw61bHC/pdjw0yttBwqjXz5nCICcITf3w1pu1lx2309X6z9N06t2zDuFOcoVtsYrr G8BVzK3eQ24tQ4HYONjwBw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2840 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mgRxk-0001yr-Kq; Fri, 29 Oct 2021 09:30:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871r440zj1.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 29 Oct 2021 14:46:26 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278189 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 14:46:26 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I assumed you display the names as well. Why don't you? it could be > > important, because the appearance is not always everything. Sometimes > > the selection of an Emoji needs that you understand what it expresses, > > in words. > > Choosing emojis graphically is the popular way of choosing them, so > Emacs should have such a method. If you don't want to use that, > nobody's forcing you -- use the method that displays with names instead. No, I meant to show both. > > When this search is slow, how many sequences fail to display? Or is > > it slow even if all the sequences can be displayed? If the latter, > > there could be some issue here that doesn't meet the eye, and we > > should start by profiling. > > The slowness is linear with the number of emojis that we don't have a > font for. Yes, but for the cases you see on your system, what is the actual number?