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However, I do recall that debian > > >> does use a modified Emacs startup which is not part of the standard > > >> Emacs distribution. They do this to enable the ability to have multiple > > >> versions of Emacs installed at the same time. > > Would we like to add a feature like that to Emacs? > I don't know how much work it would be, but I think > it would be a desirable change if it is easy. I'm not sure I understand: feature like what? If you are talking about having several Emacs versions installed on the same system, then I think we already support that: I use that all the time. That's why we install various files in version-specific directories. If you mean something else, please elaborate. (The bug discussion is very long, and the above quote is from a tangent, so I'm not sure it's worth my while reading all the discussion from the beginning trying to understand what is being alluded to here.) 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 62718A7F1 X-Spam-Score: -10.16 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -10.16 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-TUID: /fkYpMYrfO70 > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, 59882@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 00:22:04 -0500 > > > >> I don't run Debian or Ubuntu anymore. However, I do recall that debian > > >> does use a modified Emacs startup which is not part of the standard > > >> Emacs distribution. They do this to enable the ability to have multiple > > >> versions of Emacs installed at the same time. > > Would we like to add a feature like that to Emacs? > I don't know how much work it would be, but I think > it would be a desirable change if it is easy. I'm not sure I understand: feature like what? If you are talking about having several Emacs versions installed on the same system, then I think we already support that: I use that all the time. That's why we install various files in version-specific directories. If you mean something else, please elaborate. (The bug discussion is very long, and the above quote is from a tangent, so I'm not sure it's worth my while reading all the discussion from the beginning trying to understand what is being alluded to here.)