From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64185: proposal for new function: copy-line Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 14:07:15 +0300 Message-ID: <83mt0q1lp8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4C83E2DA-FE5F-4191-88CD-7E70008C9892@gmail.com> <83r0q21nij.fsf@gnu.org> <098B9138-4BC1-481B-A1A3-19B935787858@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6376"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 64185@debbugs.gnu.org, me@eshelyaron.com, zkanfer@gmail.com, juri@linkov.net To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 23 13:08:32 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qCeeW-0001TJ-Ir for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 13:08:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qCee8-0005e2-SE; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 07:08:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qCee2-0005de-LC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 07:08:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qCee2-0004xA-Cu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 07:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qCee2-0000R8-4m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 07:08:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 11:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64185 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64185-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64185.16875184321612 (code B ref 64185); Fri, 23 Jun 2023 11:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64185) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jun 2023 11:07:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37777 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qCedE-0000Pv-5R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 07:07:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43178) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qCedB-0000Pf-Sq for 64185@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 07:07:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qCed5-0004hX-Uq; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 07:07:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=4hlj1iA1uMliL4u31ISj9ArqiRcbyw8huXVPbjyPEnc=; b=UKYmzZfnEYoOeQzP78JZ j4ZJHm+VRBhZT8ica9b+TYM+hGwOG/Y+N+rZS2sMLywq5DUtxFkTREU3I7nd8jNwF919aRGLp0lmX +YrvK0XU1AT0iiTPYESXUljjq+m1jAmMT1Oc7w+BG4KYAkucCnickZgfp9ORyDoXn7eNQjoOBWFIB IVkByc0I9e1S5YMMgdlWNbAiHdulb3sxJk3lMggU26dbd1dQ0ptFV2W+D+RiSAP+ddgfhFy77//1b 0ZIOaa+ig0jnVJDZoERXTiCyvthoSBpWLXQN5cooOU/HZ3Eim19R6FCecCn5zRbXHirh7gr2mdtU+ /7h/YpbmkJDV9A==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qCed5-00048C-Ec; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 07:07:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <098B9138-4BC1-481B-A1A3-19B935787858@gmail.com> (message from Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= on Fri, 23 Jun 2023 12:50:52 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:263947 Archived-At: > From: Mattias Engdegård > Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 12:50:52 +0200 > Cc: juri@linkov.net, > 64185@debbugs.gnu.org, > me@eshelyaron.com, > zkanfer@gmail.com > > 23 juni 2023 kl. 12.28 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > > > This is a new feature in Emacs 29, so adding customization > > opportunities to it that allow fine control of its behavior is fine at > > this stage. Of course, if the proposal is controversial, we shouldn't > > rush. My impression till now was that it wasn't controversial. If > > the only issue is better documentation and/or whether the value should > > be a number or a symbol, then I see no problem with installing this on > > the release branch. > > The new setting would be quite incomplete if it doesn't apply to the > more general and useful duplicate-dwim as well. It is? why? The difference between these two commands is that duplicate-dwim is sensitive to the active region, but in that case how is it useful to talk about lines, given that region could be a part of a line or several lines plus a part of the first and the last one? So it sounds to me that we could easily leave duplicate-dwim as it is now, i.e. disregard this option in that command. Why isn't that "good enough" for Emacs 29?