From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Inputting UTF8 in Emacs Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 19:43:10 +0200 Message-ID: <83msuakpqp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8734w278qe.fsf@gmx.net> <837clemfke.fsf@gnu.org> <83y1dukwcg.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18297"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 16 18:44:01 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rEYhk-0004at-1r for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2023 18:44:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rEYhG-0006le-Vx; Sat, 16 Dec 2023 12:43:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rEYhF-0006kI-QE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2023 12:43:29 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rEYhF-0004dx-IF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2023 12:43:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=7JOEOmRTiWIY5E38K77CK60cDrsziAG88soW5eBD3mA=; b=BCBvJRtWgedy ivB3Ek5SL/pIfTAFaOmf/UqDEyAO3qz/oOw85CluKCh8SRrtzR7rHmA4I+hp0Esbgd2hOfaLT3g2j gY94m+XMqhbUSC/f9ApqqlYVyMPNBSs12a6JNx3IMAxy+ZqTS6mHEG0PEUMnXM+yN1kC62ubtwPB3 Keyssw7hTjLoFigboMS2vwuE3aNbox4CxTrxhDtNRXIGowhcilPCEhlz3zFVs7Yyp4wyp9hHgXLjb APoh9viavz5h/2n/YnuJP/35+LH5Pi6cMoNwhOiwEASmO1WmLNkKQWRH6b+ncRhJdwI4ARRAp23mb efsvJs1CVPCzN0fYrkuN6g==; In-Reply-To: (message from uzibalqa on Sat, 16 Dec 2023 17:22:25 +0000) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145650 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 17:22:25 +0000 > From: uzibalqa > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > This is not what "C-x 8 RET" is for. You want a command that shows > > Unicode characters by Unicode blocks, and then allows inserting some > > character. I'm sure someone has already written something like that, > > so maybe search the various ELPAs. > > Eli. Could we have a list of Unicode Black Names, so one could do > > C-x 8 RET BLOCK-NAME TAB TAB M- We could have anything, but someone will have to write the code, and we will then need to decide that the addition is important enough to have it bundled with Emacs (as opposed to having a separate package that interested users will need to install). AFAIR, currently Emacs doesn't even know the names of the blocks, because it is not important for supporting Unicode characters in Emacs. > In the last few years, there have been many users who would like to > easily insert UTF8 characters, even though this has not been very > well received by some developers who have been in the field for a long > time (e.g. regarding Emojis where some prefer text-based communication). For Emoji, we do have a feature that allows to display and select the one you need: "M-x emoji-list". That's because Emoji are pictures, and their textual description is much harder to understand than to pick up the picture you want. > For people in mathematics like myself, easily inserting UTF8 characters > would be considered a valuable innovation. If you are interested in mathematical symbols, then this should do: C-x 8 RET mathematical TAB TAB then keep hitting TAB to scroll through the list, or use M- and M- keys.