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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: log format for vc-bzr
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:35:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83ljg89ypj.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ocl4bie4.fsf@telefonica.net>

> From: Óscar_Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es>
> Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:45:07 +0100
> 
> > Then the docs should have said "pending uncommitted merge results".
> >
> > IOW, the fact that there should be a commit after the merge is not the
> > reason to call the just-performed merge "pending".  The results of the
> > merge are pending commit, but the merge itself is no longer pending,
> > it was already done.
> 
> I disagree. The pending is not done until the corresponding revision is
> created and hence integrated on the history of the branch. That revision
> is the merge, not the source code changes that `bzr merge' created.
> 
> This is a about how to interpret certain terms. You are seeing the issue
> from the POV of a code writer who cares mostly about the state of the
> working tree. Me from the POV of somebody who is more fluent with the
> tool (bzr) and see things on terms of history points.

That's your mistake, right there: this is user documentation, not
documentation of bzr internals.  So it should take the POV of the user
who cares much less about the implementation than about the visible
effect.

It is this wrong POV that is one of the reasons that the current bzr
docs impose such a tremendous mental pressure on a novice who is
trying to make themselves fluent with the tool.





  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-08 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-08 17:47 log format for vc-bzr Dan Nicolaescu
2009-12-08 19:19 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-08 19:47   ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-08 20:15     ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-08 21:10       ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-08 22:03         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-12-08 22:36           ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-09  0:27           ` Jason Earl
2009-12-09  8:55             ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-09  9:55               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-09 14:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-09 20:29               ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-09 21:49                 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-09 22:34                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-09 23:15                     ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-10  2:03                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-10  9:12                         ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-10 12:28                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-07 21:23                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-07 21:47                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08  0:40                         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-08  9:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 10:09                           ` reversion revulsion [was: log format for vc-bzr] Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-08 10:53                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 13:41                               ` reversion revulsion Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-08 14:32                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 14:47                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-08 11:21                             ` reversion revulsion [was: log format for vc-bzr] Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08 12:36                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 13:27                                 ` reversion revulsion Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08 16:54                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 17:57                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08 13:29                                 ` reversion revulsion [was: log format for vc-bzr] Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 13:32                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 10:28                           ` log format for vc-bzr Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 12:01                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 12:24                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 12:52                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 13:22                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 13:50                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-01-08 14:28                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 14:39                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-08 17:56                             ` bzr Q&A [was Re: log format for vc-bzr] Glenn Morris
2010-01-09 10:35                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-09 17:58                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-08 10:50                           ` log format for vc-bzr Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-08 12:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 12:29                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 13:39                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-09 10:51                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 13:48                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08 16:57                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 17:45                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08 19:35                                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2010-01-08 19:41                                       ` Miles Bader
2010-01-08 21:22                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 20:46                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08 21:29                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 21:51                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08 22:24                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 23:05                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-09  8:50                                                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-09  9:36                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2010-01-09 13:35                                                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-09  3:45                                             ` Miles Bader
2010-01-08 11:54                           ` Daniel Clemente
2010-01-08 16:45                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-09  3:18                               ` Daniel Clemente
2010-01-09  9:37                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-12-09  1:32   ` Stefan Monnier

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