From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Marking old window variables obsolete Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:28:18 +0300 Message-ID: <83lihneugd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fw7wpfid.fsf@gnu.org> <6863B68E762149B28EF9C1A159D441A3@us.oracle.com> <83r4rgdpgt.fsf@gnu.org> <83mx24dn26.fsf@gnu.org> <2C6E1B3A8D6C411980AFBD9472E76E03@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1344540520 6962 80.91.229.3 (9 Aug 2012 19:28:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 09 21:28:40 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SzYPM-0004io-7m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:28:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40703 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SzYPL-0005VR-7o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:28:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37952) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SzYPD-0005Ub-9x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:28:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SzYP7-00087G-Na for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:28:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:55461) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SzYP1-000865-CD; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:28:15 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M8I00L005VQ4100@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:28:13 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M8I00LIU6314410@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:28:13 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <2C6E1B3A8D6C411980AFBD9472E76E03@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152373 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: , > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:16:12 -0700 > > > > My request is first that we do not deprecate these user > > > options _now_. > > > > How else can we encourage users to migrate to the new machinery? > > Sheesh. If that's the only way users can be encouraged to adopt the new > machinery, that doesn't say much about how appealing it is, does it? > > Users generally have little problem adopting new features that they find (or > even suspect might be) useful. You must be kidding, if you rely in people discovering every new feature among hundreds, let alone study each one of them.