From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Windows barebin distribution Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:00:04 +0200 Message-ID: <83lidyzqh7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4F8ADAFC.9030308@gmail.com> <831unp0xzq.fsf@gnu.org> <837gpj0vyo.fsf@gnu.org> <551F5F9812F347C08746E86B58C59129@us.oracle.com> <83wqxizvg0.fsf@gnu.org> <83pq3aztgn.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353265244 14237 80.91.229.3 (18 Nov 2012 19:00:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cschol2112@googlemail.com, lekktu@gmail.com, mathias.dahl@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 18 20:00:54 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TaA6v-000099-Mk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:00:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37284 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaA6l-0007Jn-MN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:00:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50166) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaA6g-0007Ji-Rh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:00:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaA6d-0007U2-PG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:00:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:42894) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaA6d-0007Ty-Gd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:00:35 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MDP00K005YOHX00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:00:33 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MDP00KX764T5380@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:00:29 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:154925 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: , , , > > Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:22:44 -0800 > > > > If you want to know what users use, ask them. > > > > If a feature is broken and no one complains, I can know that without > > asking. > > You are changing the subject. My response to your argument rejecting checking > the logs was made long before you mentoned that the feature was broken. Which is exactly the point: time and again you allow yourself to pass severe judgment on motives of others, without having _any_ idea whatsoever about the facts of the matter, just because you smell some "attitude". If you want your opinions to matter, first learn the subject, or ask. _Then_ state your opinion, based on facts. > At that point the discussion was about whether the barebins were being used. > You had not yet made clear (to my knowledge, at least) that there was anything > broken wrt barebins. I assume that people who write their opinions know what they are talking about. It is your duty to make yourself familiar with facts before you speak up, especially when talking about something that was last discussed 7 months ago.